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14-12-2012, 11:48 AM (This post was last modified: 14-12-2012 12:01 PM by kingschosen.)
RE: Is, "I'll pray for you" insulting?
Apparently, I'm a jerkwad, condescending, patronizing jerk.

But, when I say "I'll pray for you." I really pray for someone. I mean it.

If people hate me for it, so be it. If people see malice in my intent, that's their problem... moreover, they should probably reevaluate the way they see people. Being insulted by those four words is silly.

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14-12-2012, 11:50 AM
RE: Is, "I'll pray for you" insulting?
(14-12-2012 11:48 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  Apparently, I'm a jerkwad, condescending, patronizing jerk.

But, when I say "I'll pray for you." I really pray for someone. I mean it.

If people hate me for it, so be it. If people see malice in my intent, that's their problem... moreover, they should probably reevaluate the way they see people people. Being insulted by those four words is silly.
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14-12-2012, 11:50 AM
RE: Is, "I'll pray for you" insulting?
(14-12-2012 11:48 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  Apparently, I'm a jerkwad, condescending, patronizing jerk.

But, when I say "I'll pray for you." I really pray for someone. I mean it.

If people hate me for it, so be it. If people see malice in my intent, that's their problem... moreover, they should probably reevaluate the way they see people people. Being insulted by those four words is silly.
Sticks and stone may break my bones, but I see no point in prayer.

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14-12-2012, 11:52 AM
RE: Is, "I'll pray for you" insulting?
(14-12-2012 11:26 AM)Erxomai Wrote:  
(14-12-2012 11:10 AM)kim Wrote:  Usually, when someone tells me they'll pray for me and if I'm in a mood, I'll just say, "Thanks, I'll do an interpretive dance for you." They usually get it. Shy
I'm praying for you, Kim

Yea well... my interpretive dance doesn't involve a pole. Dodgy

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14-12-2012, 12:03 PM
RE: Is, "I'll pray for you" insulting?
(14-12-2012 11:48 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  Apparently, I'm a jerkwad, condescending, patronizing jerk.

Took you this long to figure it out? Let's add dense in there, for good measure. Thumbsup

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14-12-2012, 12:08 PM
RE: Is, "I'll pray for you" insulting?
(14-12-2012 11:52 AM)kim Wrote:  
(14-12-2012 11:26 AM)Erxomai Wrote:  I'm praying for you, Kim

Yea well... my interpretive dance doesn't involve a pole. Dodgy
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14-12-2012, 12:10 PM
RE: Is, "I'll pray for you" insulting?
If someone is going to pray to fix my atheism, I'll gladly give them an ear full of why I don't care about whether they talk to themselves about me or not. The rest of the time, when they're just trying to cheer me up or "fix" something bad in my life, I usually just ignore it. Most people from whom I hear this don't even know I'm an atheist; I don't hide it, but I don't broadcast it either. So they just don't know that I don't care about their prayer. But my close friends or family, they know I'm an atheist, and if they tell me they're going to pray for something about me, I usually tell them not to bother, go spend their time on something that actually might make a difference to someone. I'll be more polite than that, but they know I'm an atheist, so they know better than to say that kind of thing to me, which means they deserve a little push back when they do.

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14-12-2012, 12:13 PM
RE: Is, "I'll pray for you" insulting?
(14-12-2012 12:10 PM)Aseptic Skeptic Wrote:  If someone is going to pray to fix my atheism, I'll gladly give them an ear full of why I don't care about whether they talk to themselves about me or not. The rest of the time, when they're just trying to cheer me up or "fix" something bad in my life, I usually just ignore it. Most people from whom I hear this don't even know I'm an atheist; I don't hide it, but I don't broadcast it either. So they just don't know that I don't care about their prayer. But my close friends or family, they know I'm an atheist, and if they tell me they're going to pray for something about me, I usually tell them not to bother, go spend their time on something that actually might make a difference to someone. I'll be more polite than that, but they know I'm an atheist, so they know better than to say that kind of thing to me, which means they deserve a little push back when they do.
So, if someone says, "Sorry dude, you're in my thoughts," do you say, "Don't worry about it. Go do something productive"?

If not, how is this any different?

If so, how do you justify throwing malice in the face of someone only offering their sympathies?

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14-12-2012, 12:16 PM
RE: Is, "I'll pray for you" insulting?
(14-12-2012 11:50 AM)cheapthrillseaker Wrote:  
(14-12-2012 11:48 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  Apparently, I'm a jerkwad, condescending, patronizing jerk.

But, when I say "I'll pray for you." I really pray for someone. I mean it.

If people hate me for it, so be it. If people see malice in my intent, that's their problem... moreover, they should probably reevaluate the way they see people people. Being insulted by those four words is silly.
Sticks and stone may break my bones, but I see no point in prayer.
But, the pray-er does see a point in prayer and honestly believes that it is helpful.

I see this in my son: If he gets hurt, he wants us to kiss his bo-bo. My wife and I know this does 0% to help the pain, but he thinks it does. Are we to stop kissing his bo-bos simply because the ineffectiveness of it?

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14-12-2012, 12:16 PM
RE: Is, "I'll pray for you" insulting?
I honestly can't think of a situation where someone would pray for me without good intentions at some level. Even if they say they are praying for me just because I'm an atheist, in their mind they are trying to bring me back to the "truth" and save me from hell. While the intentions may not be as deep or as heartfelt as a religious family member praying for me when I am seriously ill or something, still the intention must be good or they wouldn't be praying at all. So what's to be insulted about? I'm no more insulted over that than I am over the mere fact that they are religious in the first place. The prayer is just a manifestation of their religiosity regardless.

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