Is Life a Right? Or Is It a Privilege?
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17-07-2014, 11:18 PM
RE: Is Life a Right? Or Is It a Privilege?
(17-07-2014 10:57 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Without qualifying this type of right it's hard to state fairly, that's why the legal essence has held so much weight in this thread.

I think it's qualified in the essence of what life is from the get go, and always has been. I don't think that there has ever been a question in the mind (or drive, for lack of a better term) of any living thing, ever, of whether or not they should be able to defend their "right" to live. This concept has been translated into our modern laws, and even further, upon the introspection and empathetic nature of ourselves, been extended even to beasts other than humans which are less equipped to defend themselves.

I think that we innately recognize the primacy of self preservation and, being thinkers, also recognize that all living things experience the same notion at some level and deserve the right to have that and should be afforded the right to defend it with whatever ability one has to do so.

In short, I think any living thing has the right to keep living by any means necessary, as long as those means are indeed necessary. That's just nature.

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18-07-2014, 03:10 AM
RE: Is Life a Right? Or Is It a Privilege?
(17-07-2014 10:39 PM)Misanthropik Wrote:  Alright, folks, I'm aware that life is merely a state of being. A living thing is a thing that is actively engaging in what we call life. I figured my meaning would be obvious from the beginning, but fuck me if there aren't a shit-ton of knit-pickers around here. Dodgy

What the dude is saying (and what I'm arguing against) is that living isn't something I have a right to do now that I'm alive. I'm here. I'm alive. He argues that this is not my right to do so; that it is merely a privilege. (One which he, expressly, would enjoy taking away if capital punishment were ever sentenced to me)

In the grand scheme of things, I am alive because I won the genetic lottery and got to be here. In this sense, it can be argued that I am "privileged" to be alive. But now that I'm alive, I believe it is my right to continue doing so. Whether you or he or anyone else thinks - for whatever reason and under whatever circumstances - that I may need to cease living.

So, my life - my continued state of living - is my right. Or so says my opinion.

I am a self-admitted knit-picker, but I will stop for just a moment, and confine my response to human life only.

Humans have a right to life, as long as it is not at the expense of another human being.

OK, can I go back to picking my knits now? Smile

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18-07-2014, 05:38 AM (This post was last modified: 18-07-2014 06:03 AM by Chas.)
RE: Is Life a Right? Or Is It a Privilege?
(18-07-2014 03:10 AM)Hoops Wrote:  
(17-07-2014 10:39 PM)Misanthropik Wrote:  Alright, folks, I'm aware that life is merely a state of being. A living thing is a thing that is actively engaging in what we call life. I figured my meaning would be obvious from the beginning, but fuck me if there aren't a shit-ton of knit-pickers around here. Dodgy

What the dude is saying (and what I'm arguing against) is that living isn't something I have a right to do now that I'm alive. I'm here. I'm alive. He argues that this is not my right to do so; that it is merely a privilege. (One which he, expressly, would enjoy taking away if capital punishment were ever sentenced to me)

In the grand scheme of things, I am alive because I won the genetic lottery and got to be here. In this sense, it can be argued that I am "privileged" to be alive. But now that I'm alive, I believe it is my right to continue doing so. Whether you or he or anyone else thinks - for whatever reason and under whatever circumstances - that I may need to cease living.

So, my life - my continued state of living - is my right. Or so says my opinion.

I am a self-admitted knit-picker, but I will stop for just a moment, and confine my response to human life only.

Humans have a right to life, as long as it is not at the expense of another human being.

OK, can I go back to picking my knits now? Smile

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18-07-2014, 05:52 AM
RE: Is Life a Right? Or Is It a Privilege?
(18-07-2014 05:38 AM)Chas Wrote:  Refers to picking the tiny eggs of lice (nits) off someone head. Defined as excessive attention to detail - especially tiny detial.

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18-07-2014, 02:33 PM
RE: Is Life a Right? Or Is It a Privilege?
(18-07-2014 05:38 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(18-07-2014 03:10 AM)Hoops Wrote:  I am a self-admitted knit-picker, but I will stop for just a moment, and confine my response to human life only.

Humans have a right to life, as long as it is not at the expense of another human being.

OK, can I go back to picking my knits now? Smile

nitpicker, nits.

Refers to picking the tiny eggs of lice (nits) off someone head. Defined as excessive attention to detail - especially tiny detial detail.

Thanks for the clarification. Now that I have all my knits picked, I hardly have any time for the nits. Undecided

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21-07-2014, 12:01 PM
RE: Is Life a Right? Or Is It a Privilege?
You have a right to life as long as you are alive. Once you take your dirt nap you will have been privileged to be alive.
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21-07-2014, 05:11 PM
RE: Is Life a Right? Or Is It a Privilege?
This question is completely subjective. There are no such things as "rights" except in the confines of a society/community.

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21-07-2014, 05:16 PM
RE: Is Life a Right? Or Is It a Privilege?
(21-07-2014 05:11 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  This question is completely subjective. There are no such things as "rights" except in the confines of a society/community.

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21-07-2014, 05:33 PM
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21-07-2014, 08:40 PM
RE: Is Life a Right? Or Is It a Privilege?
You have the right to have all of the possible random configurations add up to make you exist in this world.

Of course you have the right to exist. However, to take that right away from someone or to cause a permanent negativity on someone else's existence kind of forfeits your right to exist.


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