Is Religion Good for the World?
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10-08-2012, 06:37 PM
RE: Is Religion Good for the World?
(10-08-2012 05:42 PM)AmishLatinJew Wrote:  Polymath, here is an hour debate showing a similar question directed specifically at Catholicism. Starring Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry vs Bishop and an Angry old woman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5OMNPmoVAw

A truly remarkable debate ... no, not really a debate... way too one-sided to be called that.

There are also many shorter versions of that debate; mainly edited down to just the Hitch or Fry bits. Fry's "then, what were for?" said for impact but also with genuine exasperation, really invokes something visceral.

That angry, old woman (I LOL'd) ... well I know something about her that if I told you, I would be breaking the Official Secret's Act and thereby be committing treason!

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10-08-2012, 06:41 PM
RE: Is Religion Good for the World?
Is delusion good for the world? No.

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10-08-2012, 07:07 PM
RE: Is Religion Good for the World?
(10-08-2012 06:37 PM)DLJ Wrote:  
(10-08-2012 05:42 PM)AmishLatinJew Wrote:  Polymath, here is an hour debate showing a similar question directed specifically at Catholicism. Starring Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry vs Bishop and an Angry old woman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5OMNPmoVAw

A truly remarkable debate ... no, not really a debate... way too one-sided to be called that.

There are also many shorter versions of that debate; mainly edited down to just the Hitch or Fry bits. Fry's "then, what were for?" said for impact but also with genuine exasperation, really invokes something visceral.

That angry, old woman (I LOL'd) ... well I know something about her that if I told you, I would be breaking the Official Secret's Act and thereby be committing treason!

Indeed. And, about the OSA... oh really??? Mwah ha ha. Can we get a hint?

And yet another interesting topic I am not interested in.
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10-08-2012, 08:49 PM
RE: Is Religion Good for the World?
(10-08-2012 07:07 PM)AmishLatinJew Wrote:  
(10-08-2012 06:37 PM)DLJ Wrote:  A truly remarkable debate ... no, not really a debate... way too one-sided to be called that.

There are also many shorter versions of that debate; mainly edited down to just the Hitch or Fry bits. Fry's "then, what were for?" said for impact but also with genuine exasperation, really invokes something visceral.

That angry, old woman (I LOL'd) ... well I know something about her that if I told you, I would be breaking the Official Secret's Act and thereby be committing treason!

Indeed. And, about the OSA... oh really??? Mwah ha ha. Can we get a hint?

Urm, all I can say is that I was doing some consulting work at the Cabinet Office (around 2002) and had access to Incident reports. Can't say more or they will put me in the Tower!

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10-08-2012, 09:12 PM
RE: Is Religion Good for the World?
Hey, Chas.

They would be thread hijacky.

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11-08-2012, 04:03 AM
RE: Is Religion Good for the World?
(10-08-2012 04:48 PM)ideasonscribe Wrote:  Wouldn't saying "religion is bad for the world" be a generalization?
Curious for the response.
Do you know a religion that is based on compelling evidence? Consider

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11-08-2012, 04:54 AM
RE: Is Religion Good for the World?
(10-08-2012 08:49 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Urm, all I can say is that I was doing some consulting work at the Cabinet Office (around 2002) and had access to Incident reports. Can't say more or they will put me in the Tower!

I think we already know that Ann Widicombe is a virgin. If it's something less obvious, please PM me. I can keep a secret.

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11-08-2012, 04:58 AM
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To answer the question that the video asks...

...the only way in which religion is good for the world, is in the instances where people think that without a god, rape and murder are perfectly acceptable and that atheism involves no morality.

For those people, for the sake of their neighbours, I hope they keep their faith.

For everyone else... fuck no.
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11-08-2012, 06:22 AM
RE: Is Religion Good for the World?
(11-08-2012 04:54 AM)Red Celt Wrote:  
(10-08-2012 08:49 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Urm, all I can say is that I was doing some consulting work at the Cabinet Office (around 2002) and had access to Incident reports. Can't say more or they will put me in the Tower!

I think we already know that Ann Widicombe is a virgin. If it's something less obvious, please PM me. I can keep a secret.

Did you see Louis Theroux - Ann Widecombe?

I remember seeing that at the time but just rewatched. Thanks,
She seems strangely less batty now that I'm less aware of UK politics.

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11-08-2012, 01:24 PM
RE: Is Religion Good for the World?
(11-08-2012 04:03 AM)Vosur Wrote:  
(10-08-2012 04:48 PM)ideasonscribe Wrote:  Wouldn't saying "religion is bad for the world" be a generalization?
Curious for the response.
Do you know a religion that is based on compelling evidence? Consider

Yes.

Anyways, let me ask again:

Wouldn't saying "religion is bad for the world" be a generalization?

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