Is Richard Carrier Your Expert? Can You Explain?
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09-10-2014, 07:05 AM
RE: Is Richard Carrier Your Expert? Can You Explain?
(09-10-2014 06:46 AM)anonymous66 Wrote:  
(09-10-2014 06:38 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  I don't believe that there is a consensus.
^fixed that for you.

Why do you expect anybody to take you seriously when you repeatedly strawman their positions? That's not what he said, not what he meant, and it isn't the first time you've twisted his words.

Quote:Sorry to hear that. Apparently, we have nothing to talk about..

Well, we agree on something. You appear to have your mind made up that "the consensus of historians" is the final word and any consideration of opposing views is to be ridiculed and/or dismissed. Why are you here? You are obviously uninterested in any discussion where anybody questions anything you already believe.

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09-10-2014, 07:05 AM
RE: Is Richard Carrier Your Expert? Can You Explain?
Carrier is not MY expert - he's just someone with whom I share a view. To me it's rather a redundant question as to whether Christ existed - but then I'm an atheist. To the Christian theist it matters much more because it has to...


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09-10-2014, 07:06 AM
RE: Is Richard Carrier Your Expert? Can You Explain?
(09-10-2014 06:59 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  I'm afraid to tell you what I believe to be Carrier's best argument... what if you can defeat it?

^fixed that for you..

don't be skeered. I'm not that smart... plus, he's bound to be right about somethings... isn't he?
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09-10-2014, 07:10 AM
RE: Is Richard Carrier Your Expert? Can You Explain?
(09-10-2014 07:05 AM)unfogged Wrote:  
(09-10-2014 06:46 AM)anonymous66 Wrote:  ^fixed that for you.

Why do you expect anybody to take you seriously when you repeatedly strawman their positions? That's not what he said, not what he meant, and it isn't the first time you've twisted his words.

No... what I'm doing is showing you my perception of what he is saying. If I'm wrong, he can make another attempt to explain himself.
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Quote:Sorry to hear that. Apparently, we have nothing to talk about..

Well, we agree on something. You appear to have your mind made up that "the consensus of historians" is the final word and any consideration of opposing views is to be ridiculed and/or dismissed. Why are you here? You are obviously uninterested in any discussion where anybody questions anything you already believe.
Yes, I think the experts in the field deserve our respect.... I don't "think" there is as consensus.. there IS a consensus. I can't help that y'all won't listen to reason.

and I wonder why it is that people listen to Carrier when he goes against the body of knowledge on the subject of ancient history.
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09-10-2014, 07:12 AM
RE: Is Richard Carrier Your Expert? Can You Explain?
(09-10-2014 06:46 AM)anonymous66 Wrote:  
(09-10-2014 06:38 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  I don't believe that there is a consensus.
^fixed that for you.
Sorry to hear that. Apparently, we have nothing to talk about..

I challenged you to contact the ancient history (or classics) departments of secular colleges or universities that you trust.. that way you can check it out for yourself.

Ask them whether or not they agree that Jesus existed... ask them about some of Carrier's claims. Stop babbling about what you KNOW is true, and take the time to actually check.

have you done that? report back here when have.

I'm actually surprised you are arguing this point with me Bucky. You seem like an intelligent guy.

You did it again, you dishonest little prick. Stop making up quotes.

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09-10-2014, 07:13 AM
RE: Is Richard Carrier Your Expert? Can You Explain?
See post #9 from this thread.
His list was plagiarized.

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09-10-2014, 07:13 AM
RE: Is Richard Carrier Your Expert? Can You Explain?
(09-10-2014 07:05 AM)anonymous66 Wrote:  
(09-10-2014 06:59 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  i'm afraid to call a college or university..I'm afraid you might be right.

^fixed that for you.

Stop doing that, you dishonest little prick.

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09-10-2014, 07:14 AM
RE: Is Richard Carrier Your Expert? Can You Explain?
(09-10-2014 07:06 AM)anonymous66 Wrote:  
(09-10-2014 06:59 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  I'm afraid to tell you what I believe to be Carrier's best argument... what if you can defeat it?

^fixed that for you..

don't be skeered. I'm not that smart... plus, he's bound to be right about somethings... isn't he?

Fuck off, you lying troll.

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09-10-2014, 07:15 AM (This post was last modified: 09-10-2014 07:18 AM by ClydeLee.)
RE: Is Richard Carrier Your Expert? Can You Explain?
(09-10-2014 07:10 AM)anonymous66 Wrote:  
(09-10-2014 07:05 AM)unfogged Wrote:  Why do you expect anybody to take you seriously when you repeatedly strawman their positions? That's not what he said, not what he meant, and it isn't the first time you've twisted his words.

No... what I'm doing is showing you my perception of what he is saying. If I'm wrong, he can make another attempt to explain himself.


Do you honestly think people wil believe you on that? This makes you seem despicable as you did the same thing yesterday to a post of Chas. If that's your claim, it makes you seem unrespectable intellectually if that's what you think they are saying.

But i'm giving you the intellectual benefit of the doubt, and thinking you're not worth the respect socially in any means of proper discussion.

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09-10-2014, 07:17 AM
RE: Is Richard Carrier Your Expert? Can You Explain?
(09-10-2014 07:13 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  See post #9 from this thread.
His list was plagiarized.
the list is from Wikipedia, DUMBASS
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus
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