Is War a necessary evil? my thoughts
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21-04-2012, 11:25 AM (This post was last modified: 21-04-2012 11:28 AM by Luminon.)
RE: Is War a necessary evil? my thoughts
(19-04-2012 10:45 PM)TheAverageGatsby Wrote:  Is War needed right now? it's used as a means of population control and boosting economies. The main method USA used to get out of the Great Depression. Before the US involvement in WWII we sold weapons to the Allies and received reparations after. There isn't a doubt that US and Europe is in great debt due to what's going on in Greece, US Recessions, and prosperity of China's giant labor force. Is it possible that our populations have grown so large and we have such limited resources that prices are rising due to high demand and low supply? More and more cars, computers, Ipads, houses, and others are built every year to sustain a ever growing population and oil, metals, and other materials are being used up. more factories built to push out more products for booming populations. Forests and fields are cut down to make new homes and shopping centers. average lifespans increasing every year due to new medical discoveries and increased child birth compared to deaths.

So wouldn't the solution be to eliminate some of the demand? Survival of the fittest, Darwinism? with the strong left alive there would be plenty of supply to sustain. repeat again in another 300 or so years? is it inevitable?

i was going around the mall and shopping places and noticed horrendously high prices for things and these thoughts poured into my mind. these are pretty macabre ideas imo, but what do you guys think about it? am i just crazy or is this actually the reality of the world we live in but nobody wants to admit this?
Looks like you have some crazy ideas about war. You should go to see it pretty close up, without uniform and without your military camp providing you food and water. It's terrible, dirty and violent thing, full of noise, fear and getting thrown out of your house. My grandma remembers a couple of years of WW2 and it affected her much more than 40 years of Communism. My grandpa almost got executed by the Nazis together with 20 other people, it only saved him that he was the family from which the Nazi chief got the milk. He was never the same afterwards and developed a bad case of OCD from the trauma.

War doesn't significantly decrease population, only demographic revolution can reliably do that. There is no excuse why should war even exist on Earth and plenty of reasons against. War can serve to destroy the old order, and WW1+2 was essential in breaking the power of churches and old colonialist empires, but that's over now. All we need today is a negotiating table to solve problems using our heads.

Prices may be rising, but not because of supply and demand, but because of speculation with resources to drive them up. Part of the speculation is creating the demand by advanced marketing and psychologic techniques (ads). Imagine all these people who got their iPhone only to be cool.

What we need is to stop economic growth, to take natural resources into public hands, to completely change our financial system or what we think of as money. The financial industry must be uprooted, destroyed and banned. It has become by far the greatest industry on the planet, much greater than all national economies combined. Yet it produces nothing.

Darwinian society? There is no such thing! Darwin studied the wilderness where animals kill and eat each other. And that's why they're still animals in the wilderness. The further away we get from that, the better off we will be.

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RE: Is War a necessary evil? my thoughts - Luminon - 21-04-2012 11:25 AM
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