Is agnostic atheism a default position or conclusion?
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20-06-2014, 11:54 PM
RE: Is agnostic atheism a default position or conclusion?
I think that this is too complicated a riddle for us to solve.

I think we should ask Jeremy.

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22-06-2014, 12:05 AM
RE: Is agnostic atheism a default position or conclusion?
(20-06-2014 11:54 PM)DLJ Wrote:  I think that this is too complicated a riddle for us to solve.

I think we should ask Jeremy.

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Oooooooooooh...

No thanks.

Because you know what I'll say...


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22-06-2014, 12:07 AM
RE: Is agnostic atheism a default position or conclusion?
(22-06-2014 12:05 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(20-06-2014 11:54 PM)DLJ Wrote:  I think that this is too complicated a riddle for us to solve.

I think we should ask Jeremy.

Angel

Oooooooooooh...

No thanks.

Because you know what I'll say...

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22-06-2014, 12:17 AM
RE: Is agnostic atheism a default position or conclusion?
(22-06-2014 12:07 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(22-06-2014 12:05 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  Oooooooooooh...

No thanks.

Because you know what I'll say...

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22-06-2014, 12:23 AM
RE: Is agnostic atheism a default position or conclusion?
(22-06-2014 12:17 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(22-06-2014 12:07 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  [Image: 3760102198_9e7de30593_o.jpg]

Obviously, I need a bigger fly swatter. Drinking Beverage

Might I suggest....?


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22-06-2014, 12:48 AM (This post was last modified: 22-06-2014 12:51 AM by rampant.a.i..)
Is agnostic atheism a default position or conclusion?
I contend that agnosticism is our default position, having no knowledge of Gods whatsoever, and approaching everything as new information.

Think about it. The "I don't know, therefore there is no God" position of agnostic atheism is no more coherent than the theist position of "I don't know, therefore God" is.

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22-06-2014, 12:55 AM
RE: Is agnostic atheism a default position or conclusion?
(22-06-2014 12:23 AM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(22-06-2014 12:17 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  Obviously, I need a bigger fly swatter. Drinking Beverage

Might I suggest....?


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I only bring out that stuff for things that make scream and jump on chairs.

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Seriously you should have been here the day a mouse ran in front of me at our old house in California.

I screamed at the cat to catch the fucking thing (while standing on a chair) and he just sat there staring at me and licking his fur as if to say he was busy.


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22-06-2014, 01:01 AM
RE: Is agnostic atheism a default position or conclusion?
(22-06-2014 12:48 AM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  I contend that agnosticism is our default position, having no knowledge of Gods whatsoever, and approaching everything as new information.

Think about it. The "I don't know, therefore there is no God" position of agnostic atheism is no more coherent than the theist position of "I don't know, therefore God" is.

I don't really see agnostic atheism as that. I don't know if a "god" ever exiisted, but there's plenty of evidence that the world's religions were created by regular people, with an agenda in mind to explain but often control their people.


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22-06-2014, 08:29 AM
RE: Is agnostic atheism a default position or conclusion?
(22-06-2014 12:48 AM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  I contend that agnosticism is our default position, having no knowledge of Gods whatsoever, and approaching everything as new information.

Think about it. The "I don't know, therefore there is no God" position of agnostic atheism is no more coherent than the theist position of "I don't know, therefore God" is.

I don't think that's what agnostic atheism is.. Its certainly not my position anyway.

I think most would say something like "I don't believe in god/gods, since there is no evidence, but I don't rule out the possibility."

But the simple lack of evidence doesn't really cover it. There's a whole lot of logical reasons why I'm an atheist.

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22-06-2014, 09:35 AM
RE: Is agnostic atheism a default position or conclusion?
(22-06-2014 01:01 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(22-06-2014 12:48 AM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  I contend that agnosticism is our default position, having no knowledge of Gods whatsoever, and approaching everything as new information.

Think about it. The "I don't know, therefore there is no God" position of agnostic atheism is no more coherent than the theist position of "I don't know, therefore God" is.

I don't really see agnostic atheism as that. I don't know if a "god" ever exiisted, but there's plenty of evidence that the world's religions were created by regular people, with an agenda in mind to explain but often control their people.

I used to be more tolerant of agnostics, but now I just want to slap them.

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