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05-02-2012, 09:37 AM
Is atheism a radical position?
I've often asked myself, especially as I am usually outnumbered, is my hard-line atheist position "radical"? It certainly is attacked by all major medial groups as if it is. Any comments, experiences to share?

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05-02-2012, 09:46 AM
RE: Is atheism a radical position?
I suppose it's extreme just in the sense that it differs so substantially from the majority or "average" opinion, but I wouldn't call it radical because we don't generally do anything extreme, even if our ideas are.

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05-02-2012, 09:49 AM
RE: Is atheism a radical position?
nope,
we dont advocate harm, inequality or theocracy

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05-02-2012, 10:04 AM
RE: Is atheism a radical position?
(05-02-2012 09:37 AM)Thomas Wrote:  I've often asked myself, especially as I am usually outnumbered, is my hard-line atheist position "radical"? It certainly is attacked by all major medial groups as if it is. Any comments, experiences to share?

This may not be truly representative of others, but in my mind, as an atheist I stand at the other end of the spectrum from a fundie. As a fundie, I was radical about Jesus. I wore that title as a emblem of pride. As a radical Christian, I was sold out on following my savior. It had nothing to do with doing any sort of violence. It was just a radical thought to be a True Believer when all the world was against us. Now as an atheist, I'm proud of myself for overcoming the delusion of belief. It's a radical step to leave that worldview behind and adapt a new one. Since I've been both, I wonder about the psychology involved in the pendulum swing from one to the other. I guess what I'm trying to get at is, for me, atheism is radical because it takes a more extreme view from agnostics, believers, and fundies. So there are a lot of folks who won't agree with "us." They'll see our viewpoint on theism as a being radical thought. But, as Ben points out so eloquently through images, we are not radical in terms of violence.

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05-02-2012, 10:36 AM
RE: Is atheism a radical position?
(05-02-2012 10:04 AM)Erxomai Wrote:  This may not be truly representative of others, but in my mind, as an atheist I stand at the other end of the spectrum from a fundie. As a fundie, I was radical about Jesus. I wore that title as a emblem of pride. As a radical Christian, I was sold out on following my savior. It had nothing to do with doing any sort of violence. It was just a radical thought to be a True Believer when all the world was against us. Now as an atheist, I'm proud of myself for overcoming the delusion of belief. It's a radical step to leave that worldview behind and adapt a new one. Since I've been both, I wonder about the psychology involved in the pendulum swing from one to the other. I guess what I'm trying to get at is, for me, atheism is radical because it takes a more extreme view from agnostics, believers, and fundies. So there are a lot of folks who won't agree with "us." They'll see our viewpoint on theism as a being radical thought. But, as Ben points out so eloquently through images, we are not radical in terms of violence.

Interesting. I've known very aggressive atheists and theists. The public mindset seems to be that if you're an atheist and "keep it to yourself" you may not have to eat lunch by yourself. Christians can get the same treatment as well. This is the confusion for me. What constitutes "radical"? Wearing an atheist T-shirt? Passing out atheist literature? Organizing an atheist club on a college campus? I tried to do that one and got "no way" responses from other atheists. "It's not worth going there" and they were tenured professors.

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05-02-2012, 11:30 AM
RE: Is atheism a radical position?
I don't see myself as radical atheist because:

I am not the one who feels the need to convince everybody.
I am not the one who tries to scare people into my own mindset.
I am not the one who wants to hurt or kill people that don't live my way.
I am not the one who indoctrinates helpless kids or mentally weak people.
I am not the one who closes the eyes before scientific facts.

No I am not radical, I just think.

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05-02-2012, 11:58 AM
RE: Is atheism a radical position?
I am an anti-theist.
The worst thing i have done:Wiped my anus with a bible.

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05-02-2012, 12:09 PM
RE: Is atheism a radical position?
(05-02-2012 11:58 AM)znk666 Wrote:  I am an anti-theist.
The worst thing i have done:Wiped my anus with a bible.

That’s the worst thing you have done?
Wiped your backside on a book?
Wow… You need to get out more… Tongue

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05-02-2012, 12:17 PM
RE: Is atheism a radical position?
It's not a position at all. It's lack of belief, termination of belief or rejection of belief - a state of mind. Sometimes silent, sometimes outspoken.
Lately, beleaguered, denigrated, threatened; therefore angry. Lately, targeted; therefore visible. Lately, politicized; therefore having a position attributed to me, which i have neither chosen nor exercised.

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05-02-2012, 12:31 PM (This post was last modified: 05-02-2012 12:32 PM by Jeff.)
RE: Is atheism a radical position?
(05-02-2012 09:46 AM)Ben Wrote:  I suppose it's extreme just in the sense that it differs so substantially from the majority or "average" opinion, but I wouldn't call it radical because we don't generally do anything extreme, even if our ideas are.

Ditto what Ben said

Arguing with certainty that there is no god, as I do, vs. the more agnostic view, is somewhat radical I suppose.


(05-02-2012 11:58 AM)znk666 Wrote:  The worst thing i have done:Wiped my anus with a bible.

Did you give it back to the believer?
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