Is cheese the most ancient non-foraged/non-hunted food?
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22-05-2015, 09:55 AM
Is cheese the most ancient non-foraged/non-hunted food?
I would think it would have to be, right?

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22-05-2015, 10:02 AM
RE: Is cheese the most ancient non-foraged/non-hunted food?
unleaven bread goes back 30,000 years....

Don't know if cheese beats that....

But, all you'd need is a fire and you'd have a grilled cheese sandwich.....

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22-05-2015, 10:06 AM
RE: Is cheese the most ancient non-foraged/non-hunted food?
(22-05-2015 10:02 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  unleaven bread goes back 30,000 years....

Don't know if cheese beats that....

But, all you'd need is a fire and you'd have a grilled cheese sandwich.....

Yeah, I read about them finding out about bread... but, I mean... I would think cheese is older than bread, though.

Bread had to be created not discovered like cheese.

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22-05-2015, 10:30 AM
RE: Is cheese the most ancient non-foraged/non-hunted food?
The making of cheese is also a process not a discovery. Yogurt would have been a 'discovery' and it may have been what lead to the process of cheese making.

Don't know, really. But now I want either cheese or yogurt. Shy

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22-05-2015, 10:38 AM
RE: Is cheese the most ancient non-foraged/non-hunted food?
I would assume that cheese came about after the domestication of cows (or whatever that animal was called. I forget). I guess the question would be what was discovered first. Was it domestic crops or animals? Ive heard it said that crops came first but I'm not convinced.
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22-05-2015, 10:42 AM
RE: Is cheese the most ancient non-foraged/non-hunted food?
I would think that as nomadic people began hearding & domesticating goats & sheep, those animals became the first 'food at hand'. Whatever products came from them would have required some processing.

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22-05-2015, 10:43 AM
RE: Is cheese the most ancient non-foraged/non-hunted food?
(22-05-2015 10:06 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  
(22-05-2015 10:02 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  unleaven bread goes back 30,000 years....

Don't know if cheese beats that....

But, all you'd need is a fire and you'd have a grilled cheese sandwich.....

Yeah, I read about them finding out about bread... but, I mean... I would think cheese is older than bread, though.

Bread had to be created not discovered like cheese.

I would actually think bread, or a type of bread is older. Cheese making requires more effort, animal husbandry -- which probably closely followed.

Bread/cracker-like bread, only requires a few things. Let it sit and wild yeast will spontaneously begin to cause it to rise.


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22-05-2015, 10:50 AM
RE: Is cheese the most ancient non-foraged/non-hunted food?
(22-05-2015 10:38 AM)Drunkin Druid Wrote:  I would assume that cheese came about after the domestication of cows (or whatever that animal was called. I forget). I guess the question would be what was discovered first. Was it domestic crops or animals? Ive heard it said that crops came first but I'm not convinced.

Yes, but many "crops" also grew wild and didn't require cultivation until later. In the americas corn was wild, many wheat varieties also tend to grow wild.

Bread making is probably, now that I'm really thinking about it, a result of fermenting berries (any wild fruits) to make alcohol. Which was probably an accident at first, and done on purpose later.


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22-05-2015, 11:01 AM
RE: Is cheese the most ancient non-foraged/non-hunted food?
Mmmmm. I had a couple of spoonfuls of yogurt and now, I'm nibbling on a hearty smoked Gouda. Shy

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22-05-2015, 11:02 AM
RE: Is cheese the most ancient non-foraged/non-hunted food?
(22-05-2015 10:43 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  
(22-05-2015 10:06 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  Yeah, I read about them finding out about bread... but, I mean... I would think cheese is older than bread, though.

Bread had to be created not discovered like cheese.

I would actually think bread, or a type of bread is older. Cheese making requires more effort, animal husbandry -- which probably closely followed.

Bread/cracker-like bread, only requires a few things. Let it sit and wild yeast will spontaneously begin to cause it to rise.

I think the first cheeses were almost certainly made accidentally. Poor milk storage practices and whatnot.
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