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10-03-2012, 09:39 PM
RE: Is human life sacred?
(10-03-2012 09:32 PM)Logica Humano Wrote:  Just answer the question.

Okay, I can do that. Life becomes sacred when you are willing to sacrifice your own.

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10-03-2012, 09:47 PM
RE: Is human life sacred?
I'm not annoyed with the word choice. I simply think it's incorrect and inapplicable, given the concept of sanctity and the treatment of life by humans.

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10-03-2012, 09:55 PM
RE: Is human life sacred?
I think it can be correctly applied, using the definition 1B or 5A.

1B
Quote:devoted exclusively to one service or use (as of a person or purpose)

5A
Quote:highly valued and important

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11-03-2012, 06:43 PM
RE: Is human life sacred?
I like the idea in a previous post that basically said life is not sacred (a God thing), but worthy of and due deep respect. That may be a good secular angle to build upon. We can decide for ourselves, and we must, what level of respect means to setting the guidelines of abortion, euthanasia, and end of life decisions.

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11-03-2012, 07:13 PM
RE: Is human life sacred?
No...maybe...who cares! Big Grin

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12-03-2012, 08:44 AM
RE: Is human life sacred?
(11-03-2012 06:43 PM)Thomas Wrote:  I like the idea in a previous post that basically said life is not sacred (a God thing), but worthy of and due deep respect. That may be a good secular angle to build upon. We can decide for ourselves, and we must, what level of respect means to setting the guidelines of abortion, euthanasia, and end of life decisions.

It sucks not having a God around to write the rules for you. Tongue

I like it too, but the use of the word is correct even in a secular sense. =)

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12-03-2012, 06:50 PM
RE: Is human life sacred?
Sacred is what we decide is sacred. Human life is a candidate, but freedom is a better one.

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13-03-2012, 06:22 AM
RE: Is human life sacred?
(09-03-2012 06:30 AM)Thomas Wrote:  If there is no God how can human life, or any other life, be considered sacred?

Conservation of entropy. The ability to simulate and preserve information in language indicates sentience is the "desire" of a finite universe. Sacred? Not so much. If not Monkey, then Cockroach. We're not "special," we are merely "word made flesh" contemplating "number made solid state." It's all about the numbers, and the universe is gonna count no matter what a bunch of monkeys do.

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13-03-2012, 08:20 AM (This post was last modified: 13-03-2012 08:49 AM by Logica Humano.)
RE: Is human life sacred?
(13-03-2012 06:22 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(09-03-2012 06:30 AM)Thomas Wrote:  If there is no God how can human life, or any other life, be considered sacred?

Conservation of entropy. The ability to simulate and preserve information in language indicates sentience is the "desire" of a finite universe. Sacred? Not so much. If not Monkey, then Cockroach. We're not "special," we are merely "word made flesh" contemplating "number made solid state." It's all about the numbers, and the universe is gonna count no matter what a bunch of monkeys do.

But that is not what the word means. It is asking whether or not you consider humans to be special among other things. It is both unique, and not that we have the ability to ponder the Universe. We have not come across any creatures who have the same ability, but our studies have pointed to there being others that do. So, in that perspective, a bunch of atoms that are able to ponder about the existence of other atoms is pretty remarkable, no matter how common or uncommon it is.

Any sentient life, in my opinion, should be considered "sacred".

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13-03-2012, 08:41 AM
RE: Is human life sacred?
(13-03-2012 08:20 AM)Logica Humano Wrote:  It is asking whether or not you consider humans to be special among other thing.

The most special thing in the known universe is Gwyneth Paltrow; but in thus saying, the hidden variable is I. Thus, a duality and not unique. Wink

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