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17-02-2013, 08:09 PM
RE: Is logic a panacea?
(17-02-2013 08:06 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  
(17-02-2013 07:56 PM)fstratzero Wrote:  [Image: 31056298.jpg]

And yes vested interests do wreck pursuits all the time.
Again you are doing your best to trivialize my considerations, with 'humour' appeal to specialists quoting other things, and not addressing my suppositions, in any serious way.
Yes you are completely correct.

Would you like me to address the subject a bit more seriously?

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17-02-2013, 08:26 PM
RE: Is logic a panacea?
Within the arbitrary confines of formal logic I will be happy to see how you present an argument indicating, given the great complexities of the human situation, how, for the mass populace, our evolved thinking processes,can justify the premises postulated, other than by resorting to ad populum, ad ignorantum fallacies et al, which at this time I must adjourn for lunch...............Oh yes, ad fidem arguments too!
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17-02-2013, 09:55 PM
RE: Is logic a panacea?
Use, fewer, commas, they're, not, all, necessary, thanks.

E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
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17-02-2013, 10:10 PM
RE: Is logic a panacea?
(17-02-2013 09:55 PM)Phaedrus Wrote:  Use, fewer, commas, they're, not, all, necessary, thanks.
Look.... in the absence of periods once in a while, commas are better than run on sentences.
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18-02-2013, 12:24 AM
RE: Is logic a panacea?
Not trying to be rude or anything, just saying:
http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/home.html

E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
It works, bitches.
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18-02-2013, 01:54 AM
Is logic a panacea?
Woof, have you a suggestion to make? Are you suggesting humans are better off without logic or science?

Logic and science don't kill people, people kill people (and exploit, etc).

We've been doing this for eons, my friend. Long before the advent of science or logic.

Some day in our future this planet will be toast. I'd really like to think we'd have a solution to that issue by the time that occurs (no rush). I fail to see how living like cavemen again will reveal a solution even given the ample time we have.

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18-02-2013, 02:15 AM
RE: Is logic a panacea?
(18-02-2013 01:54 AM)Cardinal Smurf Wrote:  Woof, have you a suggestion to make? Are you suggesting humans are better off without logic or science?

Logic and science don't kill people, people kill people (and exploit, etc).

We've been doing this for eons, my friend. Long before the advent of science or logic.

Some day in our future this planet will be toast. I'd really like to think we'd have a solution to that issue by the time that occurs (no rush). I fail to see how living like cavemen again will reveal a solution even given the ample time we have.
Meh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_ethics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioethics

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18-02-2013, 08:55 AM
RE: Is logic a panacea?
How is dropping the bombs on Japan a bad thing? Really, Japan would not have surrendered, the war would have continued for how long?
Without the invention of something like the nuclear bomb, USSR and USA would have went to war (so the world would have went to war), we wouldnt have sent a man to the moon, we wouldnt have technologies like the internet and teflon frying pans. Many, many more inventions and innovations probably wouldnt exist today.

Science tends to have a rolling snowball effect...something negative tends to lead to a lot more positive/negative advancements. If we look at history of science, we tend to mess up sometimes but swing it towards the positive side of the spectrum, in time.

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18-02-2013, 09:11 AM
RE: Is logic a panacea?
(18-02-2013 08:55 AM)StorMFront Wrote:  How is dropping the bombs on Japan a bad thing?
It depends on the moral code that you ascribe to. If you believe that the end justifies the means, it probably wasn't all that bad.

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18-02-2013, 09:19 AM
RE: Is logic a panacea?
(18-02-2013 09:11 AM)Vosur Wrote:  it probably wasn't all that bad.
'Course it wasn't. You got a pretty mushroom and the awesomest pyrotechnics ever. And after all, who doesn't love a mighty bang. What's not to like. Dodgy

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