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15-07-2013, 01:21 PM
RE: Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit?
(15-07-2013 12:36 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(15-07-2013 12:20 PM)Chas Wrote:  It is redundant because there are no gods. Drinking Beverage
Of course there aren't. The universe comes from a singularity. There can only be one true God.

No, the universe did come from a singularity. That idea is outdated.

Wikipedia Wrote:Hawking's singularity theorem is for the whole universe, and works backwards-in-time: in Hawking's original formulation, it guaranteed that the Big Bang has infinite density. Hawking later revised his position in A Brief History of Time (1988) where he stated that "there was in fact no singularity at the beginning of the universe" (p50). This revision followed from quantum mechanics, in which general relativity must break down at times less than the Planck time. Hence general relativity cannot be used to show a singularity.

There are still no gods.

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15-07-2013, 01:22 PM
RE: Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit?
(15-07-2013 12:36 PM)childeye Wrote:  Of course there aren't. The universe comes from a singularity. There can only be one true God.

This is correct, the soiled sock with a crudely drawn face next to the girly magazines and my mother's underwear is the God most worth worship.
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15-07-2013, 02:00 PM
RE: Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit?
(15-07-2013 12:36 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(15-07-2013 12:20 PM)Chas Wrote:  It is redundant because there are no gods. Drinking Beverage
Of course there aren't. The universe comes from a singularity. There can only be one true God.

Basis, evidence, proof for sentences 2 & 3?
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15-07-2013, 03:42 PM
RE: Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit?
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(15-07-2013 01:21 PM)Chas Wrote:  No, the universe did come from a singularity. That idea is outdated.
In your understanding of what the term god means, the idea never had merit at anytime. In my understanding God is what defines all existence.

Wikipedia Wrote:Hawking's singularity theorem is for the whole universe, and works backwards-in-time: in Hawking's original formulation, it guaranteed that the Big Bang has infinite density. Hawking later revised his position in A Brief History of Time (1988) where he stated that "there was in fact no singularity at the beginning of the universe" (p50). This revision followed from quantum mechanics, in which general relativity must break down at times less than the Planck time. Hence general relativity cannot be used to show a singularity.

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I already agreed. There is only one true God men can validly claim, hence the singularity is the energy of God or Creator.
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15-07-2013, 03:45 PM
RE: Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit?
(15-07-2013 02:00 PM)devilsadvoc8 Wrote:  
(15-07-2013 12:36 PM)childeye Wrote:  Of course there aren't. The universe comes from a singularity. There can only be one true God.

Basis, evidence, proof for sentences 2 & 3?
Basis, proof ,evidence: 1. the Higgs Boson. 2. God means the source of the energy of creation.
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15-07-2013, 03:56 PM
RE: Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit?
(15-07-2013 03:45 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(15-07-2013 02:00 PM)devilsadvoc8 Wrote:  Basis, evidence, proof for sentences 2 & 3?
Basis, proof ,evidence: 1. the Higgs Boson. 2. God means the source of the energy of creation.

No, and ahhh... no.

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15-07-2013, 04:07 PM
RE: Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit?
(15-07-2013 03:45 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(15-07-2013 02:00 PM)devilsadvoc8 Wrote:  Basis, evidence, proof for sentences 2 & 3?
Basis, proof ,evidence: 1. the Higgs Boson. 2. God means the source of the energy of creation.

What Johnny said.

oh and P.S., no.

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15-07-2013, 04:32 PM
RE: Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit?
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"Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit? "

It is both. The question is does the benefit out way the defect? So, what is the benefit? The benefit in the belief of god, is comfort. You can feel that the society that you live in is safe and right. You feel that it will protect you. And you feel the need to protect it! You feel right and safe.

What is the defect? The defect is that it isn't true. The lie may make you feel safe, but it doesn't make you safe. But here's the big thing: It makes you oppressive! Your need for safety and truth will cause you to BE the devil you despise! If you are lead by religion, you can't help but be lead by tyranny. If you live by something that isn't true, and you insist that people accept it, you are guilty of tyranny.

If you can't prove that your religion is true, but you expect others to live by it: You are a tyrant!

"Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit?"

It is a defect.
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15-07-2013, 05:17 PM
RE: Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit?
(15-07-2013 04:32 PM)Ameron1963 Wrote:  Greatest I am:

"Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit? "

It is both. The question is does the benefit out way the defect? So, what is the benefit? The benefit in the belief of god, is comfort. You can feel that the society that you live in is safe and right. You feel that it will protect you. And you feel the need to protect it! You feel right and safe.

What is the defect? The defect is that it isn't true. The lie may make you feel safe, but it doesn't make you safe. But here's the big thing: It makes you oppressive! Your need for safety and truth will cause you to BE the devil you despise! If you are lead by religion, you can't help but be lead by tyranny. If you live by something that isn't true, and you insist that people accept it, you are guilty of tyranny.

If you can't prove that your religion is true, but you expect others to live by it: You are a tyrant!

"Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit?"

It is a defect.
Interesting take. In Christianity is the saying we hope against hope. We believe we are never safe in this world where lack of faith puts Love to the test. But we rejoice in tribulation because we are already dead in Christ and True Love is eternal. How ironic.
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15-07-2013, 05:32 PM
RE: Is needing or wanting to worshiping a God a human defect or benefit?
(15-07-2013 03:42 PM)childeye Wrote:  
Quote:In your understanding of what the term god means, the idea never had merit at anytime. In my understanding God is what defines all existence.


There are still no gods.
I already agreed. There is only one true God men can validly claim, hence the singularity is the energy of God or Creator.

Besides no god, there was no singularity. Drinking Beverage

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