Is quote-mining natural for certain theists?
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09-10-2015, 10:25 AM
Is quote-mining natural for certain theists?
I've encountered theists quote-mining scientists on evolution, abiogenesis, cosmology etc whereby they cherry-pick or quote-out-of-context in an attempt to justify their claims or deride well-founded science....and YECs appear to be the worst offenders.

They do this without a hint of shame even denying that it is dishonest when they are exposed.

Why is this?

It occurs to me that it comes naturally for them because there are so many contradictions in their holy books - whether it's the Bible or Quran or any other "sacred" tome - that cherry picking those bits that support their particular perspective on religion is what they need to do to justify their continued adherence to what is contained in those holy books.

So they quote-mine the Bible for example, and because that has become second-nature, they apply the same "logic" to anything else.

Or am I being simplistic?
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09-10-2015, 10:45 AM
RE: Is quote-mining natural for certain theists?
(09-10-2015 10:25 AM)Silly Deity Wrote:  So they quote-mine the Bible for example, and because that has become second-nature, they apply the same "logic" to anything else.

Or am I being simplistic?

I think they do it intentionally in an attempt to create the illusion that their argument is based on science. This may work on some people that lack science education; it probably worked on them for that very reason. Unfortunately, children are often lacking in science education and make prime targets for their proselytism.
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09-10-2015, 10:55 AM
RE: Is quote-mining natural for certain theists?
It's like when they quote mine about Einstein. It makes them feel good.

And feeling good is all that matters.


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09-10-2015, 11:00 AM
RE: Is quote-mining natural for certain theists?
(09-10-2015 10:55 AM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  It's like when they quote mine about Einstein. It makes them feel good.

And feeling good is all that matters.

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09-10-2015, 11:16 AM
RE: Is quote-mining natural for certain theists?
I think most people don't even realize that they quote mine. We probably have all done it at least once without realizing it. In my experience, they take the stuff from sites similar to AiG.com and assume it is true, and simply will drop the matter when it is pointed out, some well keep arguing that they're right, but that's kinda hard to do when you then quote the whole paragraph the thing is taken from.

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09-10-2015, 11:55 AM
RE: Is quote-mining natural for certain theists?
(09-10-2015 10:25 AM)Silly Deity Wrote:  Why is this?

Because a drowning man will cling to a toothpick, hoping it will keep him afloat. It's called desperation.

We have enough youth. How about looking for the Fountain of Smart?
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09-10-2015, 12:49 PM
RE: Is quote-mining natural for certain theists?
I think a high percentage of it is second hand anyway. Somebody does the mining and posts up the handy dandy fragment somewhere and it grows legs and runs. Until it hits the brick wall of context provided by thinkers. Big Grin
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09-10-2015, 01:02 PM
RE: Is quote-mining natural for certain theists?
Darwin recanted on his deathbed.

Amirite?

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09-10-2015, 01:23 PM
RE: Is quote-mining natural for certain theists?
(09-10-2015 01:02 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Darwin recanted on his deathbed.

Amirite?

No idea. I wasn't there, nor have I heard from anyone credible who was.

Deathbed confessions are weak sauce as evidence, IMO, unless you can get audio-visual footage of it. It amounts to hearsay.

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09-10-2015, 02:32 PM
RE: Is quote-mining natural for certain theists?
(09-10-2015 01:23 PM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  
(09-10-2015 01:02 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Darwin recanted on his deathbed.

Amirite?

No idea. I wasn't there, nor have I heard from anyone credible who was.

Deathbed confessions are weak sauce as evidence, IMO, unless you can get audio-visual footage of it. It amounts to hearsay.

Nuh-uh

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