Is religion the original primitive science?
Post Reply
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Votes - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
05-06-2013, 01:27 PM
RE: Is religion the original primitive science?
In terms of the function of the very early religions and superstitious beliefs, yes, it could have been a primitive science in the sense that one of the functions would have been to explain how the world operated. I disagree with your statement and explanation that they use the same methodologies though, as several people have already pointed out.

(05-06-2013 04:41 AM)I and I Wrote:  It's ironic that some of the pioneers in geometry, mathematics and study of the motion of the planets was done by old very religious societies.
As I explained before, science and religion are very similar in methodology, and in the past the two were not viewed as two separate fields of study.

No, it's really not ironic at all. Keep in mind that there was a point where the fields of philosophy and religion weren't considered that different either.

[Image: giphy.gif]
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
16-06-2013, 04:45 AM (This post was last modified: 16-06-2013 04:49 AM by ralphellis.)
RE: Is religion the original primitive science?
In a way, yes.

The early religion was gnosis, meaning knowledge. This was translated as scientia in Latin, and science in English.

The religion was generally astronomical and astrological, and each of the gods represented a heavenly body:

Sun = Ra, Horus, Aton, Zeus,
Moon = Isis, Selene, (and Thoth)
Venus = Isis, Astarte, Aphrodite and Venus.
Jupiter = Jupiter
Mercury = Hermes
etc: etc: lots more, and cannot be bothered to look them up.

The primary purpose of this was to track the millennia via the precession of the equinox. Precession is the slow change in the constellations with the passing centuries, caused by the slow precession or wobble of the Earth, which is normally observed at dawn on the vernal or spring equinox. On average, each constellation will pass through this vernal equinox reference point in 2,140 years, a period of time known as the Great Month; while the full precessional rotation, or Great Year, takes 25,680 years to complete. Thus a precessional zodiac can be used as a millennial calendar and can point towards a particular era, either in the past or the future.

And we know that the ancients used this system, because the when Taurus turned into Aries in 1800 BC, we saw the demise of the Apis bull (Taurus) and the rise of the Hyksos Shepherd Kings (Aries).

This is why the biblical patriarchs were called shepherds (Aries), and why Moses killed 3,000 bull-worshippers (Taurus).

This is why Alexander the Great wore the horns of a ram in his hair when he became pharaph of Egypt - as did the Ptolemaic kings. They were honouring Aries as the dominant constellation.

Alexander the Great wearing the ram's horn of Aries, as a King of Aries:

[Image: 13544-004-9AF1CD3D.jpg]

Ptolemy III as Zeus, wearing the ram's horn of Aries, as a King of Aries:
Note also that the eagle has a Christian Chi Rho between its legs - in the 3rd century BC.

[Image: Svoronos_0965.1.jpg]

A Chi Rho from the Christian era:

[Image: 03590q00.jpg]

Precession is important, because it relates to Christianity too. In 10AD Aries turned into Pisces (look it up on a planisphere). This is why Jesus was born as a Lamb of God (Aries) but became a Fisher of Men (Pisces). All of early Judaism was astrological, and venerated the Zodiac.

Jesus was therefore the first of the Fisher Kings - the first of the Arthurian royal line (see Parzifal by Wolfram von Eschenbach). And this is why we see in Arthurian legend, a very good description of the inner workings of the Precession of the Equinox - Arthur's cosmic wagon.

There are two great axles or central shafts that penetrate the northern skies: the first is the celestial pole, around which the Earth spins on its daily rotation, and which is currently located near Polaris, the star at the tail of the Little Bear, Ursa Minor. And then there is the ecliptic pole, around which the celestial pole rotates once every 25,770 years, and this is located in the middle of the constellation of Draco, the serpent-dragon. These are the axles of the two great cosmic wheels of the northern skies that formed the basis of Arthur’s wagon, and so this Arthurian ‘mythology’ demonstrates that this intimate Eastern (Egyptian) knowledge of the workings of the cosmos had percolated its way into northwestern European education

An image of the two cosmic wheels of King Arthur's wagon:

Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes ralphellis's post
Post Reply
Forum Jump: