Is the internet moving towards self censorship?
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28-02-2015, 11:31 AM
Is the internet moving towards self censorship?
When going out and reading through the rules of various forums out there, it is something that I cant ignore. More and more social platforms on the internet inforce some very harsh and overly strickt measures of self censorship and inforce a standard on members that greatly shuts down the freedom of expression.

I dont want to go all "good old days" on you, but I can remember that only a few years ago, most forums online would not ban a person for posting that there is a tendency of violence towards jews within the muslim community, a statement for which I was banned from a politics forum recently.

I personaly believe that currently a notion of radical political correctness has taken hold within our popular culture. Inforced by radical progressivists who for example dreamed up gamergate and pushed it into the spotlight. And that these notions are taking hold within the online behavioral patterns of various platforms as they inforce these nonsenceical rules.

When I started registering on online forums several years ago, I mainly went to atheist forums and occasionaly registerd on christian and islamic forums. Those religious forums were inherently strickt on the rules and would inforce a strickt standard of censorship on the members. Today it seems to me that this would also apply to the far left online social justice warriors out there.

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28-02-2015, 12:17 PM
RE: Is the internet moving towards self censorship?
I remember there was a shitload of whacked out chat rooms dedicated to white supremacy.

I used to go and lurk a bit... Sort of like watching cockroaches swarm..... You're totally repulsed, but too fascinated to look away...

and -- they'd boot you out for no reason at all....

Seriously damaged people out there....

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28-02-2015, 08:20 PM
RE: Is the internet moving towards self censorship?
I think people have this idea that if you don't have rules in place that prevent things like swearing or people with alternative opinions that their forum will end up like some sort of 4chan mess.

So it becomes the like a 1984 scenario where big brother is too intrusive and it becomes just as bad as if it was just complete anarchy. If not worse.

You need to find the balance between moderation and freedom. TTA is by far the best I've seen do this.
I think western countries were very good but we seem to be heading in the wrong direction with self censorship and political correct bullshit. Politicians, big companies etc.. cater too much to minorities such as Muslims who try to force their culture on western nations. ie: If I was to ask a Muslim lady to take off her burka I would be called a racist and if I was at work I'd be fired. But if I was a women (what a women I would make) and I went to a muslim country they would expect me to wear a headscarf. It's hypocritical. But if I point out that hypocrisy I'm considered racist.
There is becoming less room for constructive criticism (not just minorities but things more prevalent like religion or political opinions) because of some perceived fear that everyone is entitled to not be criticized.

It's bullshit.
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01-03-2015, 08:54 AM
RE: Is the internet moving towards self censorship?
The Germans Are Coming, what forum banned you? I'm curious because I have an account on a forum for politics discussion as well, but anti-Semitism is not allowed.

I used to comment on a national newspaper (online) and the level of political correctness is tremendous. Personal insults are not allowed. Ok, I can live with that. Offending people is not allowed. Criticizing religion is not allowed because it's offensive. You can't have a picture of Hitler, but Stalin and Che are fine. Expressing political opinions that don't support democracy and the republic (as a form of government opposed to monarchy) are not allowed. Being too "rude" is frowned upon. Criticizing anyone who isn't white is considered racist. Not being a liberal or a socialist is punishable. Damn, and this is the best news website in the country.

Europe is a bad example of freedom of speech right now. There's a lot of things you can say and can't say. You can't insult religions in public because it's considered incorrect. And if you criticize Muslims, someone will tell you that it's the west's fault for failing to integrate them in western society.

I can even feel this in my classes. I can't express an unpopular opinion because my (extremely sweet) professor will tell me that it's bad for the community to say that and that I look far right. FAR RIGHT!

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01-03-2015, 09:09 AM
RE: Is the internet moving towards self censorship?
I got banned from debatepolitics.org

I posted that muslims have a tendency to be violent towards jews, which the mods claim is "a generalisation" and banned me.

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01-03-2015, 09:14 AM
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When I say X people are violent towards Y group it's not a generalization because group X is not a monolith. When I say men rape women I'm not saying all men are rapists and all women are rape victims, because none is a homogeneous group. Saying Islam is bad towards Jews isn't saying all Muslims hate all Jews, it's just saying there is anti-Semitism in Islam.

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01-03-2015, 09:31 AM
RE: Is the internet moving towards self censorship?
A few years ago I was on a couple forums that didn't allow swearing. I am not going to say 'asshat' when I was I want to say is 'your are a fucking asshole with shit for brains'.

I also have issues with forums that only allow certain points of view...too much like the heavily Christian world I live in.

I suppose the ones that run forums like that like the power of being able to set the rules and remove anyone they don't like. Think I will stay here with you fucking heathens.

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01-03-2015, 10:04 AM
RE: Is the internet moving towards self censorship?
The Germans, I don't know if you were talking about politicsforum.org but I post there and there's not a lot of censorship. The only ideology that is not allowed is neo-nazism and personal insults are forbidden. Other than that you have far right fascists with a sub-forum of their own talking about eugenics all day long. No one cares.

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01-03-2015, 12:03 PM
RE: Is the internet moving towards self censorship?
(01-03-2015 10:04 AM)Blackout Wrote:  The Germans, I don't know if you were talking about politicsforum.org but I post there and there's not a lot of censorship. The only ideology that is not allowed is neo-nazism and personal insults are forbidden. Other than that you have far right fascists with a sub-forum of their own talking about eugenics all day long. No one cares.

nope. the forum that banned me is debatepolitics.org

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