Is there an "atheist movement"? If so, what are its goals?
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19-03-2014, 06:35 PM
RE: Is there an "atheist movement"? If so, what are its goals?
ya its like the cult of richard dawkins
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19-03-2014, 06:37 PM
RE: Is there an "atheist movement"? If so, what are its goals?
No. Nuff said.

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19-03-2014, 07:02 PM
RE: Is there an "atheist movement"? If so, what are its goals?
(19-03-2014 06:35 PM)seroasha Wrote:  ya its like the cult of richard dawkins

Only to a fearful, dim mind such as yours.

There is no cult.

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19-03-2014, 07:02 PM
RE: Is there an "atheist movement"? If so, what are its goals?
It's to support the "homosexual agenda". What else did you think it was for ? Weeping

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19-03-2014, 07:06 PM
RE: Is there an "atheist movement"? If so, what are its goals?
The government of the United State is secular. It says so in the Constitution, Section V, and in the First Amendment.

Church/state separation has been consistently upheld by the Supreme Court.

Individuals in government keep violating the law. The only movement is that secularists are no longer afraid to speak out and even go to court over it.

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19-03-2014, 07:39 PM
RE: Is there an "atheist movement"? If so, what are its goals?
(19-03-2014 06:35 PM)seroasha Wrote:  ya its like the cult of richard dawkins

Hi, "Miss Mung".

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19-03-2014, 08:59 PM
RE: Is there an "atheist movement"? If so, what are its goals?
(19-03-2014 07:06 PM)Chas Wrote:  The government of the United State is secular. It says so in the Constitution, Section V, and in the First Amendment.

Church/state separation has been consistently upheld by the Supreme Court.

Individuals in government keep violating the law. The only movement is that secularists are no longer afraid to speak out and even go to court over it.

What does that have to do with atheism?
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19-03-2014, 09:31 PM
RE: Is there an "atheist movement"? If so, what are its goals?
(19-03-2014 08:42 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  But what is the purpose of the "atheist movement"? Is it just to spread the perspective and hopefully convince enough people of it?
Richard Dawkins is an evolution biologist,

Many religious organisations/people oppose the science behind evolution because they see it as threat to their beliefs. Maybe fueled by the Creationist and Intelligent Designer advocates.
Institute for Creation research (Ken Ham)
Answers in Genesis (Ken Ham)
Discovery Institute (Philip Johnson, Stephen Meyer, Jonathan Wells, Michael Behe)

There is a coordinated effort brought together by "The Wedge" uniting Creationists and IDers) with a goal to undermine science and with a particular focus on Evolution. This made attempts to remove evolution from American Schools and to replace it with Christian based psuedo science. This resulted in several court cases, one of the most famous being Kitzmiller Vs Dover
where by the creationists landed a majority of supporters on the Dover school board and wanted to teach psuedo-science based on Christian mythology as per the resource book Of Pandas and People.

Basically these people are using political might in order to push their religious views into science in the classroom, this is resulting in a large proportion of USA denying the science of evolution and thus no doubt frustrating Richard Dawkins and many other scientists.

I would say that the Atheist movement is to try and stop the damage and dumbing of America based on the efforts of the above people and organisations.
It is also to offer people an alternative to religious indoctrination which is needed in USA as there is such a high rate of religious adherence.
Also many people have found that they can make a lot of money out of selling atheist books etc.
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19-03-2014, 10:12 PM
RE: Is there an "atheist movement"? If so, what are its goals?
(19-03-2014 08:59 PM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  
(19-03-2014 07:06 PM)Chas Wrote:  The government of the United State is secular. It says so in the Constitution, Section V, and in the First Amendment.

Church/state separation has been consistently upheld by the Supreme Court.

Individuals in government keep violating the law. The only movement is that secularists are no longer afraid to speak out and even go to court over it.

What does that have to do with atheism?

Well, generally speaking its Christians who violate secularism for their own benefit, and now the "none's" (those of no religious affiliation in the census) make up the largest 'religious' group right behind Christians. Many of those non-affiliated are atheists, who in turn band with others who believe in the value of church and state separation to form coalitions and groups to spearhead secular interests (often by opposing the machinations of the Christian conservative right)

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20-03-2014, 07:36 AM
RE: Is there an "atheist movement"? If so, what are its goals?
(19-03-2014 08:59 PM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  
(19-03-2014 07:06 PM)Chas Wrote:  The government of the United State is secular. It says so in the Constitution, Section V, and in the First Amendment.

Church/state separation has been consistently upheld by the Supreme Court.

Individuals in government keep violating the law. The only movement is that secularists are no longer afraid to speak out and even go to court over it.

What does that have to do with atheism?

It is in response to your OP, where you said, "I know that the secular movement has a purpose of establishing and hopefully maintaining secularism byway of the separation of church and state..."

Secularism is already established.

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