Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
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21-06-2012, 09:25 AM
Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
http://theunconverted.com/is-there-such-...r-science/

This story really inspired me. Almost felt compelled to reach out to the family to find out if Mr. Landsberg was a believer or non-believer, but I figured that would be somewhat disrespectful.

One thing is for sure: He definitely believed in the value of empiricism and the scientific method of inquiry.

Hopefully, his heroic efforts on that day back in 1980 will lead to the saving of lives in future natural disasters of this nature.

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21-06-2012, 09:53 AM
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
Copernicus? Socrates?

A great story that is on it's own.

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21-06-2012, 12:21 PM (This post was last modified: 21-06-2012 01:06 PM by lightninlives.)
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
(21-06-2012 09:53 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Copernicus? Socrates?

A great story that is on it's own.
Good examples as well, especially Socrates.

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21-06-2012, 12:35 PM
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
(21-06-2012 12:21 PM)lightninlives Wrote:  
(21-06-2012 09:53 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Copernicus? Socrates?

A great story that is on it's own.
God examples as well, especially Socrates.

I was gonna ask for a quick edit, but the irony is so delicious. Tongue

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21-06-2012, 12:44 PM
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
I would go with Galileo

This friday, June 22nd - take some time to remember Galileo Galilei


- an Italian physicist, mathematician, astronomer, and philosopher who
played a major role in the Scientific Revolution. His achievements
include improvements to the telescope and consequent astronomical
observations, as well as being a strong advocate for the idea that the
earth travels around the sun.

In 1632 Galileo was brought
before the Catholic Church to renounce his position that the "earth
traveled in orbit around the sun" which went in direct conflict with
biblical scripture. Psalm 93:1, 96:10, and 1 Chronicles 16:30 include
text stating that "the world is firmly established, it cannot be moved."
In the same manner, Psalm 104:5 says, "the Lord set the earth on its
foundations; it can never be moved."

He was found guilty of
heresy by the Catholic Church and sentenced on June 22nd 1633 for
advocating that the earth travels around the sun in his book "Dialogue
Concerning the Two Chief World Systems" - published in 1632. He would
spend the rest of his life locked away.

The Catholic Church
held this position that the "earth is fixed, non-moving and that the sun
and stars move around it" until 1992 when the Pope officially declared
that Galileo was correct.

Galileo has been called the "father
of modern observational astronomy", the "father of modern physics", the
"father of science", and "the Father of Modern Science"

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21-06-2012, 12:47 PM
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
Ooh - wait; did you really mean it that way?

Blink I think I'm caught up in my own sense of irony.

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21-06-2012, 01:06 PM
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
(21-06-2012 12:47 PM)kim Wrote:  Ooh - wait; did you really mean it that way?

Blink I think I'm caught up in my own sense of irony.
Ha! No, that was a straight up hilarious typo.

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21-06-2012, 01:45 PM (This post was last modified: 21-06-2012 02:29 PM by kim.)
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
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Alan Turing 1912-1954.
He was a mathematician, logician, cryptanalyst, and computer scientist, who worked on the enigma project at Bletchley Park, in the UK which cracked german cyphers. After the war he created of the first designs for a stored-program computer, assisted in the development of random access memory, and became interested in mathematical biology. He wrote a paper on the chemical basis of morphogenesis, and he predicted oscillating chemical reactions which were later, first observed in the 1960s.

A homosexual who's criminal prosecution in the UK, where homosexuality was illegal in 1952, resulted in his accepting a sentence of chemical castration, as an alternative to prison. Because of it's secret nature, his war record was completely disregarded -he never attempted to mentioned it. He felt his conviction ruined him professionally, and the injections were a continued public persecution. It is believed he took his own life, though some also suggest accidental cyanide poisoning from use of the substance in experiments he may have been conducting.

Turing was highly influential in the development of computer science, providing a formalisation of the concepts of "algorithm" and "computation" with a contraption called the Turing Machine, -it would eventually play a profound role in the creation of the modern computer. Turing is widely considered to be the father of computer science and the father of artificial intelligence.

On 10 September 2009, following an Internet campaign, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown made an official public apology on behalf of the British government for the way in which Turing was treated after the war. Until that date, this individual was all but lost to history which he bravely challenged.
His humble existence was heroic.

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21-06-2012, 08:36 PM
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
Martin Luther king, Jr.
Even though he was a pastor, he didn't sacrifice himself for god, but for humanity.

The old gods are dead, let's invent some new ones before something really bad happens.
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21-06-2012, 08:39 PM
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
(21-06-2012 01:45 PM)kim Wrote:  [Image: Alan_Turing_photo.jpg]
Alan Turing 1912-1954.
He was a mathematician, logician, cryptanalyst, and computer scientist, who worked on the enigma project at Bletchley Park, in the UK which cracked german cyphers. After the war he created of the first designs for a stored-program computer, assisted in the development of random access memory, and became interested in mathematical biology. He wrote a paper on the chemical basis of morphogenesis, and he predicted oscillating chemical reactions which were later, first observed in the 1960s.

A homosexual who's criminal prosecution in the UK, where homosexuality was illegal in 1952, resulted in his accepting a sentence of chemical castration, as an alternative to prison. Because of it's secret nature, his war record was completely disregarded -he never attempted to mentioned it. He felt his conviction ruined him professionally, and the injections were a continued public persecution. It is believed he took his own life, though some also suggest accidental cyanide poisoning from use of the substance in experiments he may have been conducting.

Turing was highly influential in the development of computer science, providing a formalisation of the concepts of "algorithm" and "computation" with a contraption called the Turing Machine, -it would eventually play a profound role in the creation of the modern computer. Turing is widely considered to be the father of computer science and the father of artificial intelligence.

On 10 September 2009, following an Internet campaign, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown made an official public apology on behalf of the British government for the way in which Turing was treated after the war. Until that date, this individual was all but lost to history which he bravely challenged.
His humble existence was heroic.
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