Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
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23-06-2012, 01:51 PM
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
(23-06-2012 01:47 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(23-06-2012 01:44 PM)kim Wrote:  My shitty dictionary widget says:
a person who is killed because of their religious or other beliefs.
a person who displays or exaggerates their discomfort or distress in order to obtain sympathy or admiration
a constant sufferer from (an ailment)
ORIGIN Old English martir, via ecclesiastical Latin from Greek martur ‘witness’ (in Christian use, [martyr] ).

This little bastard has gotten me into more shit than it's worth -fukit- I need a new widget! Undecided
Your widget seems to be in fine fettle. Yes

Thankfully I know the word fettle. Wink

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23-06-2012, 01:53 PM
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
(23-06-2012 01:51 PM)kim Wrote:  
(23-06-2012 01:47 PM)Chas Wrote:  Your widget seems to be in fine fettle. Yes

Thankfully I know the word fettle. Wink
You may be confusing me with Erxomai. No

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23-06-2012, 02:28 PM
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
(23-06-2012 01:53 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(23-06-2012 01:51 PM)kim Wrote:  Thankfully I know the word fettle. Wink
You may be confusing me with Erxomai. No

Ha -ha! Tongue
No... I do know my widget is ok... but it's just not as in depth as I'd like. And it's thesaurus; is there really no other word for martyr? Damn - why not? Seems that there should always be alternatives. Why such a dead end on this word? Consider

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23-06-2012, 02:34 PM
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
(23-06-2012 02:28 PM)kim Wrote:  
(23-06-2012 01:53 PM)Chas Wrote:  You may be confusing me with Erxomai. No

Ha -ha! Tongue
No... I do know my widget is ok... but it's just not as in depth as I'd like. And it's thesaurus; is there really no other word for martyr? Damn - why not? Seems that there should always be alternatives. Why such a dead end on this word? Consider
A martyr is a specific type of victim. The word is quite narrow in meaning, so it's not surprising that it has no synonym.

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23-06-2012, 03:06 PM
RE: Is there such a thing as a secular martyr?
(23-06-2012 02:34 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(23-06-2012 02:28 PM)kim Wrote:  Ha -ha! Tongue
No... I do know my widget is ok... but it's just not as in depth as I'd like. And it's thesaurus; is there really no other word for martyr? Damn - why not? Seems that there should always be alternatives. Why such a dead end on this word? Consider
A martyr is a specific type of victim. The word is quite narrow in meaning, so it's not surprising that it has no synonym.

Ah yes... it's really the last step beyond persecution. It is directly associated with deliberate death or murder.

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I don't think anyone has to have been killed, to be admired for standing up for themselves or freedom or individuality.
In my opinion, the very term Atheist is secularly heroic.

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