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08-01-2014, 05:47 AM
RE: Is threatening hell to others freedom of speech
(08-01-2014 05:15 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  ...
legitimate harm.
...

... as opposed to illegitimate harm?

Huh

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08-01-2014, 06:03 AM
RE: Is threatening hell to others freedom of speech
(08-01-2014 05:21 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 05:16 AM)Dark Light Wrote:  Well, that's a plus. When it comes to Hitchens, less is certainly more. He was a pompous war mongering ass.

Maybe but that don't make him wrong on 'free speech' and 'religion', now do it?

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08-01-2014, 06:41 AM
RE: Is threatening hell to others freedom of speech
(08-01-2014 04:14 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 04:08 AM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  If anyone writes "you are going to burn in hell" it is a threat.

Children and other vulnerable people will read it.

It's unacceptable.

Hey Mark welcome back. Been a while since I've seen you post.

Thanks friend!

I've been in China.

I've also been editing that friggin book....done now. I've missed you guys!
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08-01-2014, 06:56 AM
RE: Is threatening hell to others freedom of speech
(08-01-2014 04:55 AM)Chippy Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 03:16 AM)PigMonkeyandFrog Wrote:  Today I saw a placard on a bike in the main public square in Melbourne Australia
It did the “embrace Jesus of face HELL type of thing “
I am for freedom of speech
I am against freedom of threat
Under the laws here it does seem this is HATE speech and I rang the city to report this
Making clear that the right to threaten others is not freedom of speech
It also encourages other threats and violence and might explain the level of violence in the USA

You are a fucking idiot and it is dickheads like you that prevent Australia from getting a Bill of Rights. You are a crypto-fascist. Clearly you do not value liberty and you don't even have a clue what the purpose of freedom of speech is. The raison d'être of freedom of speech is to protect unpopular opinions. If everyone agreed with everyone else there would be no need for a constitutional freedom of speech.

Also, how the fuck can it be a "threat" when it concerns something that supposedly happens to your "immaterial soul" when you are dead? A threat is a statement of intention that some human person will inflict some sort of violence on you or your property. In what sense is "repent or go to Hell" a "threat"? If you don't believe in Heaven or Hell or original sin how could it represent any sort of threat?

And no it doesn't qualify as "hate speech" in Victoria.[1]

So you've concluded that Americans freedom of speech is the cause of violence? You are fucking idiot.

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08-01-2014, 06:57 AM
RE: Is threatening hell to others freedom of speech
(08-01-2014 05:07 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Hitchens' presentation would have a lot shorter if Chippy had written it.

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But not nearly as compelling. No

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08-01-2014, 06:58 AM
RE: Is threatening hell to others freedom of speech
(08-01-2014 05:47 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 05:15 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  ...
legitimate harm.
...

... as opposed to illegitimate harm?

Huh

You know, when one harm has sex with another harm outside of marriage and produces a new harm.

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08-01-2014, 07:01 AM
RE: Is threatening hell to others freedom of speech
(08-01-2014 06:03 AM)Dark Light Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 05:21 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Maybe but that don't make him wrong on 'free speech' and 'religion', now do it?

Tongue

O'course not. Asses are right all the time. You don't have to look very far to find that truth. Drinking Beverage

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08-01-2014, 10:10 PM
RE: Is threatening hell to others freedom of speech
(08-01-2014 04:11 AM)Dark Light Wrote:  Mark, you're gonna burn in hell. Tongue

Haha. it doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't want a five year old being told this, or someone, for example, who has just escaped the clutches of a cult.
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08-01-2014, 10:18 PM
RE: Is threatening hell to others freedom of speech
(08-01-2014 05:00 AM)Chippy Wrote:  
(08-01-2014 04:08 AM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  If anyone writes "you are going to burn in hell" it is a threat.

Children and other vulnerable people will read it.

It's unacceptable.

Bullshit! Victorian law doesn't cover the fate of your "immaterial soul". You are a fucking half-wit crypto-fascist. Maybe you can overdose them on ionic zinc and magnesium to assuage their fears of something they don't believe exists.

You have no idea of the extent to which your comments don't bother me.
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08-01-2014, 10:23 PM
RE: Is threatening hell to others freedom of speech
Hell. ... Bring it bitch.

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