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30-12-2013, 01:29 PM
RE: Islamic Teachings
(30-12-2013 11:22 AM)crazylikeyou Wrote:  @nineteen

Do you think honor killings are justifiable?

What about how in Muslim countries if a woman is raped and no one sees it blah blah blah

In my opinion, bla blah blah ...


There is no such a penalty in Islam , there is no such a verse in Quran . This is a tradition which have been tried to be mounted in Islam due to hadiths . People who could not change Quran according to their personal intrest had tried to divinize the prophet and had tried to govern people due to fabricating stories about the prophet .
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30-12-2013, 01:33 PM
RE: Islamic Teachings
(30-12-2013 01:29 PM)Nineteen Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 11:22 AM)crazylikeyou Wrote:  @nineteen

Do you think honor killings are justifiable?

What about how in Muslim countries if a woman is raped and no one sees it blah blah blah

In my opinion, bla blah blah ...


There is no such a penalty in Islam , there is no such a verse in Quran . This is a tradition which have been tried to be mounted in Islam due to hadiths . People who could not change Quran according to their personal intrest had tried to divinize the prophet and had tried to govern people by fabricate stories about the prophet .

Tell that to the 99.999999 % of other Islamists, and see what they say.
The opinion of one heretic in billions of others, is irrelevant.
Feel free to report back AFTER you preach to Muslims.

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30-12-2013, 01:34 PM
RE: Islamic Teachings
(30-12-2013 01:29 PM)Nineteen Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 11:22 AM)crazylikeyou Wrote:  @nineteen

Do you think honor killings are justifiable?

What about how in Muslim countries if a woman is raped and no one sees it blah blah blah

In my opinion, bla blah blah ...

This is a tradition which have been tried to be mounted in Islam due to hadiths .


Thank you for admitting that honour killings are an intrinsic part of the islamic tradition.

Next...

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30-12-2013, 01:35 PM
RE: Islamic Teachings
(30-12-2013 12:26 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/20...vealed.php[/i]


From your link, above:

But what of root causes? The terrorists reportedly were an international group, with Islam the only common denominator.

We have enough youth. How about looking for the Fountain of Smart?
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30-12-2013, 01:49 PM
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(30-12-2013 01:35 PM)Thinkerbelle Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 12:26 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/20...vealed.php[/i]


From your link, above:

But what of root causes? The terrorists reportedly were an international group, with Islam the only common denominator.

Yup.

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30-12-2013, 01:51 PM
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(30-12-2013 11:51 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Yes. That's the mechanism.

I can't help thinking that, ironically, you are not going to be able to educate atheists in this respect because most of us already agree with you that Islam has taken a wrong turn or two.

You'll be be preaching to the unconvertable.

But I asked... what is the process?
I mean, do you and your fellow moderates have a defined process, policies and plans for educating those Islamists who you feel are misinterpreting your doctrine?

Thank you.

The first thing , there is no such a thing as being "moderate" muslim . This is not the driving modes of a car and there is no such options as Sport-Comfort-Economy .

Islam is Islam and being muslim would be due to following Islam . For example ; According to islamic rules you will be killed if you kill someone except self defence . The only way not to be executed is to be forgiven by the victim's family . Non muslims thinks that you are the "moderate" muslim if you doesnt apply this rule and you're the extremist if you apply this rule . Nahh , this is wrong . You're the muslim if you apply this rule and you're not muslim if you ignore this rule . Simple .


The powerfull muslim countries should not be servants of European countries and should protect weak muslim countries for the education of muslim communuties . For example Arabia should cut the ties with Usa . Anyway I dont like to speak politics , the backwardnes of muslim countries is based on politics but this will not continue like this . There are promising developments .
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30-12-2013, 02:07 PM
RE: Islamic Teachings
(30-12-2013 01:51 PM)Nineteen Wrote:  The first thing , there is no such a thing as being "moderate" muslim . This is not the driving modes of a car and there is no such options as Sport-Comfort-Economy .

Islam is Islam and being muslim would be due to following Islam . For example ; According to islamic rules you will be killed if you kill someone except self defence . The only way not to be executed is to be forgiven by the victim's family . Non muslims thinks that you are the "moderate" muslim if you doesnt apply this rule and you're the extremist if you apply this rule . Nahh , this is wrong . You're the muslim if you apply this rule and you're not muslim if you ignore this rule . Simple .


The powerfull muslim countries should not be servants of European countries and should protect weak muslim countries for the education of muslim communuties . For example Arabia should cut the ties with Usa . Anyway I dont like to speak politics , the backwardnes of muslim countries is based on politics but this will not continue like this . There are promising developments .

Must be nice living in a fantasy land. Your "logic" defies rational examination.
Anyone can assert anything. Does not make it true.
Your rantings are equivalent to :

The moon is made of green cheese

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30-12-2013, 02:11 PM
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(30-12-2013 10:41 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Thank you. I missed the previous replies about equality so I look forward to your reply when you are less busy....................

Here is the verses , as I promised ....

in brief ;

4:135 Always be fair , even while you decide about the person those who is your close friends/relatives . Even if they're rich or poor . Even if contrary to your interests . Never distort the truth !

7:181 Ummah of Allah , guides to people by using truth and they protect justice

5:42 Allah loves justice and loves who protect justice

7:29 Allah orders justice

5:8 Be fair ! witness with justice ! Protect the justice for everyone even if you dont like them , being unfair is being against Allah
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30-12-2013, 02:28 PM
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So then, if I tell my husband to turn down the TV and he doesn't do it - I get to mete out some justice?

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30-12-2013, 02:31 PM
RE: Islamic Teachings
(30-12-2013 02:11 PM)Nineteen Wrote:  
(30-12-2013 10:41 AM)DLJ Wrote:  Thank you. I missed the previous replies about equality so I look forward to your reply when you are less busy....................

Here is the verses , as I promised ....

in brief ;

4:135 Always be fair , even while you decide about the person those who is your close friends/relatives . Even if they're rich or poor . Even if contrary to your interests . Never distort the truth !

7:181 Ummah of Allah , guides to people by using truth and they protect justice

5:42 Allah loves justice and loves who protect justice

7:29 Allah orders justice

5:8 Be fair ! witness with justice ! Protect the justice for everyone even if you dont like them , being unfair is being against Allah

Great. It can be interpreted to mean anything. Define "justice" ?
Oh wait, You can't.

Umm. Explain you avatar. Are you trying to make us think that is you ? (We do know who that is BTW.) Do you have permission to use her image ?

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