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28-12-2013, 07:18 PM (This post was last modified: 28-12-2013 09:36 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Islamic Teachings
(28-12-2013 06:59 PM)λάθε βιώσας Wrote:  Christianity hasn't come on my radar like Islam has, you can clearly see atrocities and human rights disasters under Islam's dictatorship.

There are no "historical documents" (from Rome or anywhere else) that meet the standards of historical research. There are a few Roman documents that mention, obliquely, the cult. There is no evidence that he, specifically, was killed. Phlio of Alexandria, and Pilate's secretary were on-site at the time and mention nothing, but mention all kinds of other more mundane occurances. There is no way to sort out Yeshua ben Josef from the other Jesuses. Greeks translating Hebrew texts that were created as "gospels', (thus inherently NON-historical) are not evidence of anything. Paul admitted he cooked up his "revelation" on the basis of his hallucination. Repeated lies, are still lies. The Old Testament is almost all mythology, (much of it proven to be impossible by archaeology), such as Abraham, the patriarchs, Moses, the Exodus, all complete myth, as demonstrated by the Documentary Hypothesis. There is nothing "historically reliable" about any of it. The Hebrews didn't even have a word for "history", and at the time of Tacitus the Romans were arguing what it even meant to write "history".

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28-12-2013, 07:39 PM
RE: Islamic Teachings
(28-12-2013 04:27 PM)Nineteen Wrote:  
(28-12-2013 04:20 PM)λάθε βιώσας Wrote:  Islam is slavery! a society for the few on top!

Islam is disgusting and filthy!

WILL THE MODERATORS PLEASE GET THIS DISGUSTING FILTHY CRAP OFF THE THE BOARDS?

thank you...

Okay thanks , this much hate and stress will kill you day by day . Look there is a war in Syria , you can join the Assad side : ) and fight against islamists . Ofcourse if you have courage for that , I'm sure you have .

Eh, just put him on [/IGNORE]. So far as I can tell, he's only here to troll.
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28-12-2013, 07:57 PM
RE: Islamic Teachings
(28-12-2013 05:26 PM)Nineteen Wrote:  
(28-12-2013 05:22 PM)BryanS Wrote:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in...references

The only thing you can do is copy-paste ? or watching fox tv news ? like a zombie .

Please watch the video to learn about Islam .




Right, 'cause wiki is JUST like Fox News, and as an atheist it's the kind of news channel I go to in order to confirm my religious and moral beliefs.

You asked for scriptural references, and I have you a wiki reference to the exact location that calls them out. I am not a reader of the Koran, so that's the best I can do. I have heard Muslims state that Islam requires death for apostasy in multiple youtube debates I've watched, so since this is coming from your side, I take that to be confirmation this is the case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in...references
Quote:Qur'an Surah 4. An-Nisa, Ayah 89 or Qur'an 4:89 [46] states that "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-". This command to kill or slay is in all mainstream translations.

Are you saying wiki is inaccurate?

Your reaction to my question is exactly the same as the British Muslim debating Dawkins here. Notice everyone how forthcoming Nineteen is in discussing Islam's rules for how to deal with apostasy. She is just as dishonest in her response as if she were lying by evading the point entirely. She knows how immoral the Islamic teachings on apostasy are, so she wants to talk about anything else than that. It took Dawkins multiple times to get the guy to answer that the penalty for apostasy is death:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQzuFrMRA3M


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28-12-2013, 09:10 PM
RE: Islamic Teachings
(28-12-2013 05:08 PM)Nineteen Wrote:  Islamic teachings is compatible with human nature and all the people will find it close to themselves .

Yes if you are a 7th-Century desert-dwelling Arab.

Quote:Please prove your claim with a verse ?

Your interpretation of Quranic verse is not mainline.

Can you read Quranic Arabic?
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28-12-2013, 09:13 PM
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(28-12-2013 05:42 PM)Nineteen Wrote:  I'm gonna sleep : )

You are always asleep. It would be more apt if you said, "I am now putting my body to sleep also".
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28-12-2013, 09:50 PM (This post was last modified: 28-12-2013 09:56 PM by Taqiyya Mockingbird.)
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28-12-2013, 10:03 PM
RE: Islamic Teachings
(28-12-2013 05:57 PM)Nineteen Wrote:  
(28-12-2013 05:50 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  @Nineteen, click here



Islam is a plague on this world. It offers nothing of value and all those that follow its teachings should be round up and shot.

Clicked but didnt understand what it means : ) so your plan for muslim is round them up and shot , mmm actually doesnot sound interesting to me : )

How do you propose to come to rule the world? You think you're going to entice enlightened western nations to embrace islam with the promise of fucking 9-year old girls?

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28-12-2013, 10:12 PM
RE: Islamic Teachings
(28-12-2013 10:03 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(28-12-2013 05:57 PM)Nineteen Wrote:  Clicked but didnt understand what it means : ) so your plan for muslim is round them up and shot , mmm actually doesnot sound interesting to me : )

How do you propose to come to rule the world? You think you're going to entice enlightened western nations to embrace islam with the promise of fucking 9-year old girls?

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28-12-2013, 10:14 PM
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(28-12-2013 10:12 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Join the brave fighters of the mujahadeen.

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28-12-2013, 10:25 PM
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(28-12-2013 05:42 PM)Nineteen Wrote:  This is really so boring : ) hadiths are not islamic teachings , I can prove that by asking you questions , would you want to answer my questions ? Short questions and short answers ? Okay ? I'm gonna sleep : )

Extremism brings out the extreme in the best and the worst of us.

It does appear as though you want to have a sensible discussion so may I make a suggestion?...

Instead of giving us what your book does teach (and many of us have read it) why not give us (in bite-sized chunks), the parts (specifics) that your revisionist view has rejected and why?

I'd be interested in that.

Thanks.

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