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25-11-2014, 01:35 PM
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
(25-11-2014 01:07 PM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 12:52 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  Can we assume the turn this poster has taken negates the warning Stark was issued?

If Stark was looking to get me into a debate with him in this Introductory Room which is against Forum Rules, then that wasn't nice of him. I wont get into a debate with him in here ....and I left him with a link that he can go to where I do debate the issue . Here it is again : http://www.christianforums.com/t7841230

Nice? You want nice? christianforums is nice. We're frikken 'orrible 'ere. Stop being a prat. I hate prats.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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25-11-2014, 01:49 PM
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
(25-11-2014 01:16 PM)Impulse Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 01:05 PM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  That's a common retort I get, but, Im getting my OBJECTIVE information from the highest of reliable atheist Sources...that being....the official atheistic Humanist Manifestos 1 and 2 plus what the presiding Humanist of the Year quoted in the national Humanist Magazine of Humanism being a religion.

Is there any chance that you don't appreciate me exposing atheistic Humanism as a Religion , and so you defame me based on that (?) .

I'm an atheist and I never even heard of the Humanist Manifesto until you mentioned it. I certainly don't follow it. Those who do are only one specific subset of atheists and most likely the overwhelming minority. Yet, you base your view of atheists as a whole on that one document and arbitrarily label it as the "highest of reliable atheist sources".

That's just the beginning of all that you got wrong.

Please read carefully: There is nothing in atheism that can be accurately labeled "religion". Doing so by anyone, including you, merely exemplifies ignorance on the subject.

Why is so important to you to label atheism as religion anyway? It does nothing for proving the existence of any god and so it does nothing to support your theistic viewpoint. Consider


Youre a professed Atheist and yet you've never heard of the official written atheist Secular Humanist Manifestos !!??? Sheesh....and I get accused of 'not understanding atheism' . Why don't you read them because they represent the foundational general affirmations that every Atheist ive ever encountered believes in. It covers everything from the atheist worldview of materialism and naturalism, origins, moral relativism including sexual relativism , and everything in between.

Its not important 'for me to label atheism as a religion' -- its simply what it is except its secular in nature. A religion doesn't have to have the elements of supernaturalism in it ; Humanism officially defines itself as a RELIGION yet it denies the supernatural. What IS troubling to me is that Humanists only want their religious ideology taught in American public schools and not even neutral Intelligent Design because of the religious implications there is to it. That's bigotry . The majority of Students want ALL sides of the issue taught so they can decide for themselves which is more logic. But they grow in ignorance not knowing just how incredibly engineered this Universe has to be with the scientifically CONFIRMED Parameters we have as a reality needed for Earth to be here and for life to exist. Even the majority of adult Atheists fall prey to this ignorance (and by using the term 'ignorance' im not speaking of stupidity...but rather a complete lack of fundamental knowledge of reality)
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25-11-2014, 01:49 PM
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I was banned from that site for suggesting watching porn isn't a sin.

Check out my now-defunct atheism blog. It's just a blog, no ads, no revenue, no gods.
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25-11-2014, 01:59 PM
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Many of us have been banned from CF for far less than you've done here. Besides, I've been around the block a time or two debating with Christians. You need to prove you're mettle before any discussion we ever have can be called a debate.

I see you like pointing to the rules. In case you hadn't noticed, pretty much everything is up to staff discretion. I LIKE having theists on the forum. But not when they shit on the rug. So I'll remind you once more of rule number one....because it's the only one you really need to bother yourself with.

1) Don't be a dick.

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25-11-2014, 02:35 PM
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
(25-11-2014 01:49 PM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  Youre a professed Atheist and yet you've never heard of the official written atheist Secular Humanist Manifestos !!??? Sheesh....and I get accused of 'not understanding atheism' . Why don't you read them because they represent the foundational general affirmations that every Atheist ive ever encountered believes in. It covers everything from the atheist worldview of materialism and naturalism, origins, moral relativism including sexual relativism , and everything in between.

Atheism is simply not having a belief in a god. That's it. Atheists come from all walks of life, interests, viewpoints, etc., but THOSE have nothing to do with atheism. There is no atheist worldview of anything. There are atheists who have their own independent worldviews, but that has nothing to do with atheism.

What you are speaking of is humanism. Humanism is not atheism and atheism is not humanism.

(25-11-2014 01:49 PM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  Its not important 'for me to label atheism as a religion' -- its simply what it is except its secular in nature. A religion doesn't have to have the elements of supernaturalism in it ;

What separates religion from a political group? Or a dance team? Or a club of people who enjoy fishing? These are all groups of people organized based on a common interest. What separates religion IS the deity. Otherwise, it's just another organized group of people with a common interest.

(25-11-2014 01:49 PM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  Humanism officially defines itself as a RELIGION yet it denies the supernatural.
Citation needed.

(25-11-2014 01:49 PM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  What IS troubling to me is that Humanists only want their religious ideology taught in American public schools and not even neutral Intelligent Design because of the religious implications there is to it. That's bigotry . The majority of Students want ALL sides of the issue taught so they can decide for themselves which is more logic. But they grow in ignorance not knowing just how incredibly engineered this Universe has to be with the scientifically CONFIRMED Parameters we have as a reality needed for Earth to be here and for life to exist. Even the majority of adult Atheists fall prey to this ignorance (and by using the term 'ignorance' im not speaking of stupidity...but rather a complete lack of fundamental knowledge of reality)

You are obviously uneducated about the universe. People like you speaking out about what you think should happen in schools both scare and anger me. People like you interfere with the curricula that those who actually know what's best recommend. When you say you want creationism taught in schools, it's like saying you want a flat earth "possibility" to be taught in schools. Creationism is no more than the belief in a possibility. Sorry, but the fact that large numbers of people believe something to be true, does not merit it being taught even as a possibility. Schools are for learning about reality unless the material is clearly identified as fiction. Belief labeled as reality or even possible reality has no place in schools - I don't care whether that belief is about religion or anything else. Science is not belief.

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25-11-2014, 03:32 PM
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
(25-11-2014 01:49 PM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 01:16 PM)Impulse Wrote:  I'm an atheist and I never even heard of the Humanist Manifesto until you mentioned it. I certainly don't follow it. Those who do are only one specific subset of atheists and most likely the overwhelming minority. Yet, you base your view of atheists as a whole on that one document and arbitrarily label it as the "highest of reliable atheist sources".
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You're a professed Atheist and yet you've never heard of the official written atheist Secular Humanist Manifestos !!??? Sheesh....and I get accused of 'not understanding atheism' . Why don't you read them because they represent the foundational general affirmations that every Atheist ive ever encountered believes in. It covers everything from the atheist worldview of materialism and naturalism, origins, moral relativism including sexual relativism , and everything in between.
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Humanist Manifesto ... Consider ... rings a bell but nope, not something I'm interested in.

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25-11-2014, 03:47 PM
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
(25-11-2014 01:49 PM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 01:16 PM)Impulse Wrote:  I'm an atheist and I never even heard of the Humanist Manifesto until you mentioned it. I certainly don't follow it. Those who do are only one specific subset of atheists and most likely the overwhelming minority. Yet, you base your view of atheists as a whole on that one document and arbitrarily label it as the "highest of reliable atheist sources".

That's just the beginning of all that you got wrong.

Please read carefully: There is nothing in atheism that can be accurately labeled "religion". Doing so by anyone, including you, merely exemplifies ignorance on the subject.

Why is so important to you to label atheism as religion anyway? It does nothing for proving the existence of any god and so it does nothing to support your theistic viewpoint. Consider


Youre a professed Atheist and yet you've never heard of the official written atheist Secular Humanist Manifestos !!??? Sheesh....and I get accused of 'not understanding atheism' . Why don't you read them because they represent the foundational general affirmations that every Atheist ive ever encountered believes in. It covers everything from the atheist worldview of materialism and naturalism, origins, moral relativism including sexual relativism , and everything in between.

Its not important 'for me to label atheism as a religion' -- its simply what it is except its secular in nature. A religion doesn't have to have the elements of supernaturalism in it ; Humanism officially defines itself as a RELIGION yet it denies the supernatural. What IS troubling to me is that Humanists only want their religious ideology taught in American public schools and not even neutral Intelligent Design because of the religious implications there is to it. That's bigotry . The majority of Students want ALL sides of the issue taught so they can decide for themselves which is more logic. But they grow in ignorance not knowing just how incredibly engineered this Universe has to be with the scientifically CONFIRMED Parameters we have as a reality needed for Earth to be here and for life to exist. Even the majority of adult Atheists fall prey to this ignorance (and by using the term 'ignorance' im not speaking of stupidity...but rather a complete lack of fundamental knowledge of reality)

The fact that we exist on this troubled planet does not indicate that a perfect and loving god constructed us, one off, to learn his ways.
Experience is a great, if not just teacher--- not prostrating ourselves before some ineffable character, for no sane reason.
What are your views on agnosticism?

You failed to answer my question re anthropomorphic leanings............
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25-11-2014, 04:02 PM
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So you're basing your entire opinion of all atheists on what one group says? A group that some (not all) atheists join and some theists join.

But we can't base our opinions of you based on your adherence to a book that promotes rape, slavery, incest, and genocide?

I'm not a Christian and I'm not a humanist. I am an atheist, meaning I don't believe in gods. Not yours, not Marduk, not Dazhbog, not Ra, not Mithra, not Hotei, not Zeus, not any of them.

Your cognitive dissonance won't allow you to fathom someone without a deity.
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25-11-2014, 05:46 PM
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
(25-11-2014 01:07 PM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 12:52 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  Can we assume the turn this poster has taken negates the warning Stark was issued?

If Stark was looking to get me into a debate with him in this Introductory Room which is against Forum Rules, then that wasn't nice of him. I wont get into a debate with him in here ....and I left him with a link that he can go to where I do debate the issue . Here it is again : http://www.christianforums.com/t7841230

So, Skippy, you come off preaching and racist and decide to take on the forum admin.

So much for coming here to interact and not be a jerk.

Again I will wish you luck. I rescind the welcome.

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25-11-2014, 05:49 PM
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
(25-11-2014 01:49 PM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 01:16 PM)Impulse Wrote:  I'm an atheist and I never even heard of the Humanist Manifesto until you mentioned it. I certainly don't follow it. Those who do are only one specific subset of atheists and most likely the overwhelming minority. Yet, you base your view of atheists as a whole on that one document and arbitrarily label it as the "highest of reliable atheist sources".

That's just the beginning of all that you got wrong.

Please read carefully: There is nothing in atheism that can be accurately labeled "religion". Doing so by anyone, including you, merely exemplifies ignorance on the subject.

Why is so important to you to label atheism as religion anyway? It does nothing for proving the existence of any god and so it does nothing to support your theistic viewpoint. Consider


Youre a professed Atheist and yet you've never heard of the official written atheist Secular Humanist Manifestos !!??? Sheesh....and I get accused of 'not understanding atheism' . Why don't you read them because they represent the foundational general affirmations that every Atheist ive ever encountered believes in. It covers everything from the atheist worldview of materialism and naturalism, origins, moral relativism including sexual relativism , and everything in between.

Its not important 'for me to label atheism as a religion' -- its simply what it is except its secular in nature. A religion doesn't have to have the elements of supernaturalism in it ; Humanism officially defines itself as a RELIGION yet it denies the supernatural. What IS troubling to me is that Humanists only want their religious ideology taught in American public schools and not even neutral Intelligent Design because of the religious implications there is to it. That's bigotry . The majority of Students want ALL sides of the issue taught so they can decide for themselves which is more logic. But they grow in ignorance not knowing just how incredibly engineered this Universe has to be with the scientifically CONFIRMED Parameters we have as a reality needed for Earth to be here and for life to exist. Even the majority of adult Atheists fall prey to this ignorance (and by using the term 'ignorance' im not speaking of stupidity...but rather a complete lack of fundamental knowledge of reality)

ANd just how many have you encountered. 2 ? You are 12 years old right ?

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