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26-11-2014, 09:31 AM
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
*Raises hand*

Might I put forward a vote for the prosthelisizing parts of this welcoming thread be parsed off by the Moderators into a more appropriate thread such that proper discourse can be commenced? (And the beatings can so properly be handed out Tongue)

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26-11-2014, 09:41 AM
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
(26-11-2014 09:23 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  
(26-11-2014 09:14 AM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  Im glad to hear that. Watching Porn is a sin and you shouldn't be promoting it as if it is permissible and correct to do. How would you like your little sister being sexually exploited on a screen ? Christ can change you inwardly if you let him and you will welcome the change.

Can the sexual act be judged by intention between consenting adults?
Why or why not?

The 'consenting adults' argument thereby making illicit sex permissible and thus alright, is utterly fallacious. How does 2 people doing something immoral and wrong therefore make it right to do ? And this Humanist nonsense of 'its ok to do just so long as nobody gets hurt' is equally fallacious because the consequences of illicit sex today proves that people are getting hurt, they are loosing their lives prematurely, unborn developing human beings are being murdered then sucked into a sink (infanticide) , 1 in 4 American adults have at least one STD of which most are permanent for life, 1 in 3 College women get sexually assaulted during college years , not to mention the immense emotional toll I takes particularly on women who are used like trash then discarded when the boredom wears off. Welcome to backfired Humanist ideology by a populace not wanting God anymore in their lives .
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26-11-2014, 09:45 AM
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
Still voting for the parsing and more/better conversation/debate.

Also "Butt kicking for great JUSTICE! Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" Tongue

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26-11-2014, 09:48 AM (This post was last modified: 26-11-2014 09:52 AM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
(26-11-2014 09:41 AM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  
(26-11-2014 09:23 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  Can the sexual act be judged by intention between consenting adults?
Why or why not?

The 'consenting adults' argument thereby making illicit sex permissible and thus alright, is utterly fallacious. How does 2 people doing something immoral and wrong therefore make it right to do ? And this Humanist nonsense of 'its ok to do just so long as nobody gets hurt' is equally fallacious because the consequences of illicit sex today proves that people are getting hurt, they are loosing their lives prematurely, unborn developing human beings are being murdered then sucked into a sink (infanticide) , 1 in 4 American adults have at least one STD of which most are permanent for life, 1 in 3 College women get sexually assaulted during college years , not to mention the immense emotional toll I takes particularly on women who are used like trash then discarded when the boredom wears off. Welcome to backfired Humanist ideology by a populace not wanting God anymore in their lives .

You have not provided a definition for "illicit sex" or "morality" or demonstrated how you came to these conclusions. You are conflating many unrelated issues for the purpose of dramatic appeal.

EVERY law concerning every matter in the Bible was TAKEN FROM, not "given to" the culture. Humans wrote the Bible and PUT their own contemporary values in it. This is easily proved, child.
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...rah?page=2
You really need a class or two ... or twenty. Facepalm

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26-11-2014, 10:12 AM (This post was last modified: 26-11-2014 10:17 AM by Im a humble little Theist.)
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
(25-11-2014 06:35 PM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  
(25-11-2014 01:49 PM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  Youre a professed Atheist and yet you've never heard of the official written atheist Secular Humanist Manifestos !!??? Sheesh....and I get accused of 'not understanding atheism' . Why don't you read them because they represent the foundational general affirmations that every Atheist ive ever encountered believes in. It covers everything from the atheist worldview of materialism and naturalism, origins, moral relativism including sexual relativism , and everything in between.

Its not important 'for me to label atheism as a religion' -- its simply what it is except its secular in nature. A religion doesn't have to have the elements of supernaturalism in it ; Humanism officially defines itself as a RELIGION yet it denies the supernatural. What IS troubling to me is that Humanists only want their religious ideology taught in American public schools and not even neutral Intelligent Design because of the religious implications there is to it. That's bigotry . The majority of Students want ALL sides of the issue taught so they can decide for themselves which is more logic. But they grow in ignorance not knowing just how incredibly engineered this Universe has to be with the scientifically CONFIRMED Parameters we have as a reality needed for Earth to be here and for life to exist. Even the majority of adult Atheists fall prey to this ignorance (and by using the term 'ignorance' im not speaking of stupidity...but rather a complete lack of fundamental knowledge of reality)

um public schools are places of learning. Intelligent design (lol what an oxymoronic name) is pseudo-science, and has no basis in reality, is not observable or testable, thus it falls into the category of fantasy..or philosophy, but it does not fall into education. Telling children that the earth is 6,000 years old and that adam and eve used to ride dinosaurs, and that all of this came together because an invisible super genie blew into a handful of dirt and created man is the very epitome of lies, brain-washing and absurdity.

I used to just ignore religion as it has no meaning to me, but then again, as I have stated before I can no longer just look the other way. You have to study the effects of religion, and most major religions to be able to identify the bad emotional impacts subjugation causes. Also on the thought that "why take away faith if it helps people get through the day"...I've never really understood how removing a bad way to reason will make it difficult to get through the day. If anything, it would seem that correcting someone's reasoning would significantly increase their chances of getting through their day.

With reliable forms of reasoning comes the capability of crafting conditions that enable people to navigate life's obstacles. By using a more reliable form of reasoning, people are more capable of bringing about conditions that enable them to flourish.

To argue that people need faith is to abandon hope, and to condescend and accuse the faithful of being incapable of understanding the importance of reason and rationality. There are better and worse ways to come to terms with death, to find strength during times of personal crisis, to make meaning and purpose in our lives, to interpret our sense of awe and wonder, and to contribute to human well-being...and the faithful are completely capable of understanding and achieving this..if they would only try.

You are at a distinct disadvantage, you believe in a fairy tale, a fairy tale based on a discredited, easily dismantled and disproven fictional book, filled with allegorical writings by communities of followers who penned them under more known author's names, pseudepigrapha by definition. Now if you wanted to discuss the philosophical theories of god then that would be a different, albeit subjective discussion, but if you cling to the bible as argument from authority, then you are beyond help. the world isn't flat, there isn't enough water on or in the planet to flood the world as per the mythical global flood that never happened, and jesus christ super star the miracle performing zombie didnt exist either as all writings of him were penned after his death by people who never witnessed the alleged events. Seek knowledge, it will help you with your 'faith".

Now stop hiding in the intro thread and come get a schooling.

Intelligent Design isn't an oxymoron term. It is something that we ALL easily recognize when something is designed which implies a Being. In fact, Science is in the very business of determining if physical things were of an intelligent cause or a natural cause such as in the science of archeology and forensics . In fact, with most things we buy from a store, we consider HOW well something is intelligently designed and engineered such as new car we consider buying. We do our homework in determining the best designs for the buck . So, your excuse of ID being a fallacious term in any way , is nothing but a smokescreen to help justify denying our intelligent Designer for the many entities of intelligence we find in everything from biological systems to the metaphysical to the complexity of the smallest of lifeform which I might add has enough information in digital alphabet form that only comes from an intelligent source amounting to 1000 volumes of encyclopedias . And someone as yourself chooses to develop a charade game that Naturalism vetos any semblance of obvious Intelligent Design. Even Guru Dawkins admits to intelligent design in the YouTube video called Dawkins vs. Stein interview herewith : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZtEjtlirc.

I have absolutely no doubt that when you look around, you see effects that only an intelligent Creator can provide whether it be our sun at 93 millions miles away heating earth perfectly to within 150 f. surface temp at all times of the year or a rattlesnakes facial apparatus sensing a temp. change of 1/10 th of one degree so the snake knows when the prey is getting closer for a strike or our Human Anatomys 16-stage cascade system for blood coagulation upon our skin getting ripped open whereby each stage is triggered by the previous stage with the last stage being vitamin K. which isn't even related to the prior same 15 chemical group . I could on and on with examples of the impossibility of 'naturalism' by random chance but id like to encourage you to stop the charade game of what we've all been indoctrinated with....which is a deliberate attempt to never consider anything BUT natural causes. The Universe reality we have IS NOT conducive to the atheist explanation in every single circumstance...and it only takes ONE circumstance where Naturalism cant do it for there to be an intelligent Source for it.

Don't commit the biggest crime One could ever commit in their life. Instead, get to know God by refusing to be closed minded. Youll never regret doing so.
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26-11-2014, 10:15 AM
RE: Its a pleasure to be among you
Oh, FFS.

Has the laundry been checked for socks lately?

This one smells like an old smelly sock.

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26-11-2014, 10:20 AM
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(26-11-2014 10:15 AM)Anjele Wrote:  Oh, FFS.

Has the laundry been checked for socks lately?

This one smells like an old smelly sock.

Typical response from someone who isn't interested in the most important issue ever (Gods existence) . Goes to show how self absorbed some people groups can be . Its an affront to the 'whatever' defeatist attitude .
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26-11-2014, 10:23 AM
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(26-11-2014 10:12 AM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  Intelligent Design isn't an oxymoron term. It is something that we ALL easily recognize when something is designed which implies a Being. In fact, Science is in the very business of determining if physical things were of an intelligent cause or a natural cause such as in the science of archeology and forensics . In fact, with most things we buy from a store, we consider HOW well something is intelligently designed and engineered such as new car we consider buying. We do our homework in determining the best designs for the buck . So, your excuse of ID being a fallacious term in any way , is nothing but a smokescreen to help justify denying our intelligent Designer for the many entities of intelligence we find in everything from biological systems to the metaphysical to the complexity of the smallest of lifeform which I might add has enough information in digital alphabet form that only comes from an intelligent source amounting to 1000 volumes of encyclopedias . And someone as yourself chooses to develop a charade game that Naturalism vetos any semblance of obvious Intelligent Design. Even Guru Dawkins admits to intelligent design in the YouTube video called Dawkins vs. Stein interview herewith : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZtEjtlirc.

I have absolutely no doubt that when you look around, you see effects that only an intelligent Creator can provide whether it be our sun at 93 millions miles away heating earth perfectly to within 150 f. surface temp at all times of the year or a rattlesnakes facial apparatus sensing a temp. change of 1/10 th of one degree so the snake knows when the prey is getting closer for a strike or our Human Anatomys 16-stage cascade system for blood coagulation upon our skin getting ripped open whereby each stage is triggered by the previous stage with the last stage being vitamin K. which isn't even related to the prior same 15 chemical group . I could on and on with examples of the impossibility of 'naturalism' by random chance but id like to encourage you to stop the charade game of what we've all been indoctrinated with....which is a deliberate attempt to never consider anything BUT natural causes. The Universe reality we have IS NOT conducive to the atheist explanation in every single circumstance...and it only takes ONE circumstance where Naturalism cant do it for there to be an intelligent Source for it.

Don't commit the biggest crime One could ever commit in their life. Instead, get to know God by refusing to be closed minded. Youll never regret doing so.

Have you ever read even one book on evolution by an evolutionary biologist? Consider

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26-11-2014, 10:23 AM
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(26-11-2014 10:20 AM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  Its an affront to the 'whatever' defeatist attitude .

No it would BE that, not an "affront" to it.
Do you plan on getting an education any time soon ?

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26-11-2014, 10:34 AM
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(26-11-2014 10:12 AM)Im a humble little Theist Wrote:  Intelligent Design isn't an oxymoron term. It is something that we ALL easily recognize when something is designed which implies a Being.

Nope.
1. Reality has been proven to be non-intuitive.
2. An omnipotent god could make life work without ID.
3. ID is an argument against gods.

Don't say "we all" That's a lie. It's only uneducated people like you who have no science background that don't get how the universe works that make these "god of the gaps" arguments.

Have a deluded day, Evil Judgmental Child. Can we call you EJC for short ? Tongue

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