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14-12-2013, 08:39 PM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(14-12-2013 08:29 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(14-12-2013 07:53 PM)insider432 Wrote:  ...and no worries, i'll be gone soon enough forever...

Does that mean you are about to kill yourself? PrettyPleeeeeeezzz?

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LOL...nice one...i give you that. Time to get out of here before you hostile atheists drag me down with you. Even though my post is way more dangerous than your childish attempts to attack me on a personal level instead of actually adressing the information i presented. Feel the power of true knowledge that is above your head. All you guys can do is make fun of me on a personal level. Cant get more lame than that...lol thanks for the good laugh and thanks for the reminder experience...now i know you guys are not going down hill anymore...you already reached the very bottom Wink lol

PS: Reputation -3 ???? LOL...Because i present information that goes against your instable world beliefs? Funny...i come here and present info and get attacked for no reason and no one seems to be able to debunk my info...Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin

Told ya CHECK MATE atheists

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14-12-2013, 08:41 PM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(14-12-2013 06:36 PM)insider432 Wrote:  
(03-10-2013 08:45 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Numerology is bullshit... Drinking Beverage

Is like saying mathematics is BS. You do realize that mathematical equations are the basis of modern science especially quantum physics etc. (which btw has a very old ancient name and that name is kabballah) and used to help describe reality.





Real mathematicians will tell you that numbers were not invented but discovered. It's a game that nature or God also plays. The bible is a highly coded and multi dimensional book. However, im not here to prove the bible right but to show you that there is much more to life than you can perceive with your 5 senses. And yes there actually is proof of a God or intelligent creator force. I dont consider myself a christian, nor am i a bible thumper, since it has been tampered with but there is indeed "deep truth" to be found in the bible and other ancient texts as well but it takes wisdom in order to be able to comprehend its higher dimensional meanings. Its not even meant to be taken literally all the time. If you do that then there's no help for you anyways.

The number of the beast 666 adds up to 9 using the digital root method, if you dont know what that is, look it up yourself. 666 = 18 (1+8) = 9. The number 9 actually governs time and space...

So, let's begin...and let's see how many of you will actually label this as coincidence Wink

The Number 9 is Everywhere In Plain Sight!

The number 9 is the last number in a base 10 system which is the last and limit of all that is. Nine is a number which has many interesting qualities that other numbers do not have and has been used to hold a hidden code that affects every person on earth. If you think nine is just another number, you are in for a big surprise. Even more interesting, there is something about it that most people and scientists don't know. As you will soon discover, there is a hidden code that reveals the greatest truth of all and it is encoded into the construction of our universe and affects our lives called the 9 code.

Let's start with the basics.





If you've never heard of the "Flower of Life" then i suggest you do some research and educate yourselfs. The flower of life was known to the ancients and has been found all over the world.





If you dont know about the Fibonacci Sequence i suggest you educate yourselfs since it is found everywhere in nature:





The 9 code is everywhere for us to see if we are willing to search for it. For those who have come to understand the code have become the masters of wisdom seen as men holding keys in ancient artwork.

The Intelligent design of our universe is geometrical and congruent forming beautiful shapes and images with the number 9 as a proof of concept stamp on it given by God (which is the planet SATURN) From atoms to galaxies and even our DNA is surrounded by geometrical shapes and patterns with the number 9 hidden inside as proof of creation.

(Funny to see the shape of saturn's hexagon vortex being used on this site as a background, which tells me who runs this site OCCULT INSIDERS, yes you can laugh for now. I'm an occult insider myself) (Snow crystals are shaped like that because of saturns electro magnetic influence on this planet, saturn's hexagon feature on its northpole is key here)

If you atheists had done your homework you would have realized that the bible has been tampered with. Every time it mentions God or Lord its not always referring to the same one, btw thats why atheists dont want to worship a hateful, vengeful and jealous evil god (satan is saturn btw) and chrisitians have been deceived as well since they believe the bible to be the pure word of god, however we can still find deep truth in the bible, but discernment is needed. The truth is hidden from the fool.

Here's proof that jews worship saturn. All major religions are either based on saturn worship or have been fuzed with saturn worship.

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_o...lohim.html

Just watch the flash animation...

But lets continue with our 9 code:

Numbers form shapes and do very weird things according to magnetism. When you add numbers a certain way, different patterns arise which create geometrical shapes. It seems that the construction of our universe, galaxy, and solar system revolves around the number 9 somehow and this number comes up everywhere just as a woman is pregnant for 9 months displaying the 9 code.

The number 9 seems to govern not only properties of physical reality but also time:

Using the digital root method:

1,440 minutes in a day = adds up to 9
86,400 seconds in a day = adds up to 9
10,080 minutes in a week = adds up to 9
525,600 minutes in a year = adds up to 9


Minutes and seconds in a day, week, month, year will always reduce to 9. Unaffected by the varying number of days in months and years i.E "leap years".

The number 9 seems to govern time and space, it also seems to be existent and non existent at the same time.

If we add up the digits of a number until there is only one number left we have found what is called the digital root and used by the ancients called numerology and used as a shortcut for solving certain math equations by organizing numbers.

In other words the sum of the digits of a number is called its digital root.

Example:

3954 = 3+9+5+4 = 21

21 = 2+1 = 3

But here's the trick, its called "casting out nines".

The important property to keep in mind about digit sums is that you can remove any 9's or any combination of numbers that add up to 9 while you are summing up your numbers.

Back to our previous example:

3954 = 3+9+5+4

You can arrive at the digit sum much faster if you drop out the 9 and the 5+4 that adds up to 9 and get the digit sum of 3 directly. In other words, 9's and any combination of numbers that add up to 9, they just disappear. You can treat them as zeros and you'll arrive at the same end result much faster, they magically disappear.

Numbers are the bots moving in and out of reality alive and thinking, forming, giving thought to, creating events, ideas, and they are always trying to get your attention. They themselves have power 9 being the most powerful. Thus they will manifest into your life but you think they are just numbers.





According to Pythagoras all is number and languages use a numbering system especially ancient languages using sacred geometry hidden inside the language where the sounds of the words carry enormous power and can be decoded using numbers. Numbers are at the root of the language in the form of letters so a mathematical expression can be written as words as well.





Research "CYMATICS"





this 7 pointed star that you can see manifesting itself is the same as Magician John Dee's 7 pointed star which goes by many names such as the sigillum dei aemeth or seal of babalon:

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Back to the 9 code:

Even music and it's Pythagorean tuning of middle C 256 hertz called A432 tuning adds up to 9 (4+3+2=9) and is congruent with the Fibonacci pattern Phi 1.618 where the distances between notes are sacred using physics and was later changed to 440 for unknown reasons which is said to be the result of a conspiracy to get people out of sync with nature.

The new 440 tuning (4+4+0=8) was used and the 9 was exchanged for an eight. Because of this, music today is not tuned to the natural vortex Phi pattern 1.618 seen in nature so it does not flow naturally with our DNA.
There's something about the 432 resonating with the human body to give a spiritual experience and the church wanting to be the only ones to own that. Large cathedrals are specifically designed to enhance this effect or experience. All modern music instruments are tuned to A-440 and its a fact that 440hz does not work properly in music but 432hz allows music to flow.

What do we know about the number 432? I find it quite interesting that the old 432 C's frequencies of 256 are multiples of 2 and seen in computers such as; i.e. 128, 256, 512, etc. referring to the doubling circuit in the flower of life - vortex based math demonstration that was shown to you earlier. Could it be that we are living inside a computer simulation know as the matrix? What proof do we have and what does the 9 code have to do with it?

You will understand the significance of this in a moment and find out why all the planets and constellations (diameters and distances from each other and motions) fall in line with certain sacred numbers 9, books, music architecture, etc. and their powers and more importantly wonder how on earth did the ancients know about this and hide it just about everywhere in plain sight for us to find.

One of the reasons is that the base 10 digit system is not an invention but a discovery that is apparent in nature and part of one reality we can perceive as nature. The diameter of the earth, sun, and moon, their radius, and other measurements of planets and constellations are all tied together using the number 9 in a unique way to hide a message. It is important that from now on you notice how all the following numbers keep adding up to number nine.

The earth is tilted at 23.4 degrees (=9) and has a wobble due to its bulging center which gives us 4 seasons. Our earth's north pole points through 12 constellations in a 25,920 year cycle (=9) broken up into 2160 years (=9) per constellation. Depending on which constellation rises in the east behind the sun, determines what "age" we are in. Understand that this 25920 Year cycle around the constellations or zodiac is called "The Great Year" and that the constellations move through the background of the rising east with movement of just 1 degree every 72 years (=9).

Many people including John Lennon have been fascinated with the number nine. Since some artists are occult insiders themselves they tend to incorporate this knowledge into their music, movies etc....Beatles - Revolution 9. Several songs with the name Engine Number 9.

The more you surround yourself around a number, because it has magnetic qualities, it will attract things into your life with those same number qualities. you see it in Chinese feng shui. Also, learning how to control it and master it instead of it controlling you was what Bruce Lee called enter the dragon, to enter a realm of energy by shape and form.

Also, just as it happens mathematically it happens with events in real life and seen everywhere in our universe, nature, and culture even though most people have missed it. This code is universal. The ancients knew about it and hid it in books, art, and buildings in order to pass it down for us to find. The code is the fiber of all that has been created and simplifies the creation process and the theory of everything in physics; how the quantum world and the macro world interact and work as one which has not been discovered yet. This secret is as magical as watching energy and consciousness move in and out of the universe forming the fiber we call reality.

144 (=9) clues in the bible in revelation 7:4, 14:1, 14:3

A baktun is 20 katun cycles of the ancient Mayan Long Count Calendar which contains 144.000 days (=9)

There were originally 144.000 (=9) casing stones on the great pyramid of Giza.

The number 144 (=9) can also be found at Coral Castle.

144 is also related to the concept of light and sound.


Prime numbers are very special not just in math but had special properties used by the ancients when added a certain way to form magnetic shapes. At the center of prime quadruplets is hidden the number nine. Prime numbers mapped out form a vortex. Prime quadruplets mapped out form the right angles and ratios of a perfect pyramid with the spiral looking number 9 hidden inside by adding the center numbers. Prime quadruplets are so rare that there are only 7 of them under 2000. Yes, seven of them and at their centers is hidden these numbers 9, 15, 105, 195, 825, 1485, 1875 which are the hidden ones. These are not primes themselves but center numbers of the seven prime quadruplets. These centers are extremely rare and add up to 9 using the digital root method. Adding each one gives 9, 6, 6, 6, 6, 9, 3. If you then add these they add up to 45 and then finally 4+5=9. (This is btw the secret of the ancient pyramid builders and the builder of Coral Castle = Edward Leedskalnin)

"If you only knew the magnificance of the 3,6 & 9 then you would have a key to the universe" - Nikola Tesla

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration." - Nikola Tesla

The first 4 prime quadruplets 9,15,105,195 when multiplied together yield the number 2764125. When split it up we get 27, 64, and 125. Now, we can see that 27 is the cube of 3. Then, 64 is the cube of 4. Then, 125 is the cube of 5. This is the connection to the 3:4:5: triangle worshiped by the Egyptians used to calculate the dimensions of the sun, moon, and earth and when added together form (2+7+6+4+1+2+5= 27 = 9)

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Strangely enough, dividing all these center numbers you get the diameter of the earth, sun, and moon, and other very interesting information that matches up with astronomical numbers, other scientific data, and events on earth. All these numbers somehow all work together to create an image of a self organizing and self replicating system. The more you investigate the more you begin to understand this amazing knowledge and truth that the ancients knew and was somehow lost in history through the eons of time but now rediscovered for you to see.

In the Bible it says in Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a "man"; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." What is interesting is that the scripture Revelation 13:18 has a secret code hidden to those that have wisdom. Take the number 13 and 18 and multiply them you get 13x18=234 which adds up to 9. It's reverse mirror number is 432. If you add these 234+432=666.

Also if you divide them, 13/18= .72 adds to 9. 72 years is the time it takes for the earth's precession to move 1 degree through the constellations which was very important to the ancients as they understood the meaning of the constellation rising behind the sun. 432 (=9) also encodes the speed of light, the diameter of the moon and the sun.

So, half of 432 is 216 which is the diameter of the moon = 2160 miles.

432 squared is the speed of light = 186,624

Double 432 and you get 864 which is the diameter of the sun = 864,000 miles. (which is connected to the seconds in a day = 86,400)

Let that sink in for a while!!!

And all of those have a digital root of 9.


So, if you take those two numbers and add them 234+432= 666 which adds up to 9 using the digital root method mentioned earlier (6+6+6= 18 and 1+8=9) and are three upside down nines! Also, 234 is the tilt of the earth 23.4 degrees. 432/2 = 216 which adds to 9 and is Plato's number, the smallest cube known to "man" (216 is the smallest magic product of a 3 by 3 multiplicative magic square)

It is also interesting that there is an eclipse in the year 2034 = 9 that passes over Egypt. These are the synchronized time cycles that match up with events using the Phi ratio displaying the sacred science of fractal energies sharing efficient waves in these events.

Jesus died at the 9th hour and knew about the matrix spoken in parables being in the flesh and in the spirit. "This is why I speak to them in parables: Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand." Do you know why he spoke to them in parables? They were not able to perceive, nor comprehend. 153 fish (=9) caught in the bible which is a reference to the vesica pisces.

The significance of 432 is that it is the base number for other calculations like 43,200 is exactly half a solar day in seconds. If you double 432x2=864 which is the base for one solar day in seconds, 86,400 seconds in a day and the diameter of the sun is 864,000 miles. If you square 432 like this (432x432)= the speed of light (186,624) which adds up to 9!

If these measurements were not as they are, we would not experience a total eclipse of the sun. The height and perimeter of the Egypt's great pyramid are in a ratio to the radius and circumference of the Earth. The modern measurement for the actual polar radius of the Earth (pole to center) is 3949 miles. What this means is that the great pyramid in Egypt encodes the measurements of the earth, sun, and moon in relationship to the 12 constellations mathematically and geometrically. It is a calendar oscillating through time aligned with the stars casting shadows of geometry displaying the message of the code right in front of our eyes and we missed it.

No offense but you guys are so far out of the know and you never do any research for yourselfs, all you atheists know is what you have been told by mainstream media and mainstream science. J. Edgar Hoover was right when he said:

"The human being is handycapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous, he cannot believe it exists" This type of information is being kept hidden from the public as nutty as that might sound to some of you but its the truth.

Go on and try to debunk this, good luck with that. And for those of you who will call this coincidence another big LOL...i dont want to come off offensive but you guys are really far out of the know, this planet is run by occultists. They keep information from you, you atheists are living in a lie. This post was not meant to prove the bible right, that topic is far more sinister. Saturn rules this planet due to its influence in form of electro magnetic forces. Satan aka Saturn is also called Father Time for a reason, but i wont go into the saturn subject thats too much for you atheists to handle. But check your skype icon, can you see saturn? Thats because skype was created by an occult insider. Ever looked at your internet explorer icon? Saturn again. Windows Update icon = saturn again and again, if you atheists only knew. The kaaba at Mecca = Black cube of saturn. Muslims circle around the the kaaba mimicking the hexagon vortex feature on saturns northpole.

Good luck with debunking this stuff Wink

This stuff should at least make you go hmmm and get you to do some research, its time to educate yourselfs, there's a hidden world out there you know nothing about and this stuff will never be covered by mainstream media.

I just had some time on my hands, thats why i i made this post.

Time to wake up atheists!!!

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HITLER SAME BABYLONIAN CROSS:

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People lie, symbols dont.

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ANCIENT SUMERIAN TABLET

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GOOD LUCK TRYING TO DEBUNK THIS...

YOU HAVE BEEN BAMBOOZLED...YOU ACCEPT MAINSTREAM LIES FOR TRUTH...

IGNORANCE IS BLISS THOUGH, it truly is because once you realize the truth about this planet / reality you cannot live your life normally anymore because you cannot relate anymore to all those blind brainwashed sheeples that forgot how to think for themselves.

"Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction"

Oh and christmas is saturn worship as well.

Good day atheists Wink

PS: nice hexagonal background picture on this site which represents saturn as well......as well as the cube because a 2 dimensional hexagon is also a 3 dimensional cube. There are actually several big atheist channels on youtube with saturn imagery / symbolism, i wonder why...lol

CHECKMATE ATHEISTS in a friendly way though, just trying to open a few eyes here and there but usually atheists tend to stick their heads in the sand and pretend certain evidence is not there. This reality is not what you think it is. Read up on the occult or stay ignorant. The signs are all around you.

Now im done.

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14-12-2013, 08:51 PM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(14-12-2013 06:36 PM)insider432 Wrote:  1,440 minutes in a day = adds up to 9
86,400 seconds in a day = adds up to 9
10,080 minutes in a week = adds up to 9
525,600 minutes in a year = adds up to 9

Numerology is meaningless, it's games with number systems.

Let's recast the above into base 16:
5A0 minutes in a day = adds up to F
15180 seconds in a day = adds up to F
2760 minutes in a week = adds up to F
80520 minutes in a year = adds up to F

See how that works?

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14-12-2013, 09:01 PM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(14-12-2013 08:39 PM)insider432 Wrote:  
(14-12-2013 08:29 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Does that mean you are about to kill yourself? PrettyPleeeeeeezzz?

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LOL...nice one...i give you that. Time to get out of here before you hostile atheists drag me down with you.

Yeah you get hostility when you spout a bunch of absolute bullshit. That's how the world works, asshole.


Quote: Even though my post is way more dangerous than your childish attempts to attack me on a personal level instead of actually adressing the information i presented.

You didn't present any information. You posted a wall of incoherent word salad.


Quote:Feel the power of true knowledge that is above your head.[/quoet]

Word. Salad.


[quote] All you guys can do is make fun of me on a personal level. Cant get more lame than that...lol thanks for the good laugh and thanks for the reminder experience

“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." -- Thomas Jeffferson



Quote:...now i know you guys are not going down hill anymore...you already reached the very bottom Wink lol

Yes, you having posted your idiotic blather here is indeed a new low.


Quote:PS: Reputation -3 ???? LOL...Because i present information that goes against your instable world beliefs? Funny...i come here and present info and get attacked for no reason and no one seems to be able to debunk my info...Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin

You didn't post any information at all. You posted nonsense. WHo gives a fuck. Go away.

Quote:Told ya CHECK MATE atheists

ALL the fucking idiots say that. And then they, like you, get their heads handed to them.



Quote:farewell

See how easy that was?


Fuck off, troll.

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14-12-2013, 09:06 PM (This post was last modified: 14-12-2013 09:15 PM by Vosur.)
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(14-12-2013 06:36 PM)insider432 Wrote:  [Image: Pope%20with%20maltise%20cross.JPG]

HITLER SAME BABYLONIAN CROSS:

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As the resident German on this forum, I have to point out that that information is inaccurate.

Hitler is wearing what is known as "Eisernes Kreuz" (English: Iron Cross), a military achievement he was awarded with by the German emperor Wilhelm II. for his actions during World War I.

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14-12-2013, 09:20 PM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(14-12-2013 09:06 PM)Vosur Wrote:  
(14-12-2013 06:36 PM)insider432 Wrote:  [Image: Pope%20with%20maltise%20cross.JPG]

HITLER SAME BABYLONIAN CROSS:

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As the resident German on this forum, I have to point out that that information is inaccurate.

Hitler is wearing what is known as "Eisernes Kreuz" (English: Iron Cross), a military achievement he was awarded with by the German emperor Wilhelm II. for his actions during World War I.

I'm german myself and that cross is the cross of saturn. Wow there's some serious censoring going on on this site. Someone removed my latest post completely. Really sad actually but whatever. So all you guys can do is call it BS but not actually debunk it? Go and try to debunk the 9 code which proves creation a 100% without a shadow of a doubt.

Ignorance is bliss....

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14-12-2013, 09:22 PM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(14-12-2013 09:20 PM)insider432 Wrote:  
(14-12-2013 09:06 PM)Vosur Wrote:  As the resident German on this forum, I have to point out that that information is inaccurate.

Hitler is wearing what is known as "Eisernes Kreuz" (English: Iron Cross), a military achievement he was awarded with by the German emperor Wilhelm II. for his actions during World War I.

I'm german myself and that cross is the cross of saturn. Wow there's some serious censoring going on on this site. Someone removed my latest post completely. Really sad actually but whatever. So all you guys can do is call it BS but not actually debunk it? Go and try to debunk the 9 code which proves creation a 100% without a shadow of a doubt.

Ignorance is bliss....

bye

Yes it was removed because it was the same post you put here do it again and you will just be banned. Or better yet you can just leave now and save us the trouble.

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14-12-2013, 09:24 PM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(14-12-2013 09:01 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  [quote='insider432' pid='443355' dateline='1387075171']

Yeah you get hostility when you spout a bunch of absolute bullshit. That's how the world works, asshole.

Fuck off, troll.


So when are you going to debunk it? Just calling it BS without actually adressing the information is really lame you know...not that i expected anything else from atheists...

Always the same with you guys...making fun of ppl and attacking them on a personal level instead of actually adressing and trying to debunk the information in a grown up manor...what does that tell you about your intelligence?
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14-12-2013, 09:25 PM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(14-12-2013 09:22 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(14-12-2013 09:20 PM)insider432 Wrote:  I'm german myself and that cross is the cross of saturn. Wow there's some serious censoring going on on this site. Someone removed my latest post completely. Really sad actually but whatever. So all you guys can do is call it BS but not actually debunk it? Go and try to debunk the 9 code which proves creation a 100% without a shadow of a doubt.

Ignorance is bliss....

bye

Yes it was removed because it was the same post you put here do it again and you will just be banned. Or better yet you can just leave now and save us the trouble.


You know what, yea i'll do you that favor because there's no hope for you silly atheists anyways...
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14-12-2013, 09:29 PM (This post was last modified: 14-12-2013 09:32 PM by insider432.)
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(14-12-2013 08:51 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(14-12-2013 06:36 PM)insider432 Wrote:  1,440 minutes in a day = adds up to 9
86,400 seconds in a day = adds up to 9
10,080 minutes in a week = adds up to 9
525,600 minutes in a year = adds up to 9

Numerology is meaningless, it's games with number systems.

Let's recast the above into base 16:
5A0 minutes in a day = adds up to F
15180 seconds in a day = adds up to F
2760 minutes in a week = adds up to F
80520 minutes in a year = adds up to F

See how that works?

The base 10 system is the ONLY real system reflected by nature...other base systems are fabications and do NOT reflect nature whatsoever. You certainly did NOT watch those vids, nor read my entire post. Whatever. Call it nonsense all you want but you are rejecting truth here...
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