Ivan Panin's "Proof".
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23-06-2013, 10:50 PM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(23-06-2013 12:23 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Ho hum. Another nut-job, who (alone) is just certain, that ...

I found a MUCH better proof of Jebus, for ya.
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/jesus..._dogs_butt

Funny,..... I found the True Bible Codes, .....and you found a dogs ass.
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24-06-2013, 02:32 AM (This post was last modified: 24-06-2013 09:39 AM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(23-06-2013 10:50 PM)JesuisSean Wrote:  
(23-06-2013 12:23 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Ho hum. Another nut-job, who (alone) is just certain, that ...

I found a MUCH better proof of Jebus, for ya.
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/jesus..._dogs_butt

Funny,..... I found the True Bible Codes, .....and you found a dogs ass.

And yet, sir, what I found is of more value than what you found.

Actually, sir, you *found* nothing. You perceive, what appears to your brain to be patterns, IN ENGLISH, in reverse from the way it was originally written, thus your entire premise is based on a complete fallacy. Are there THE SAME patterns in it in French, Latin, or German ? Why is it JUST ENGLISH, reversed ? You then name those apparent patterns "Bible Codes". You THINK you see something, that has been proven to exist in ANY text, by the laws of Probability, in any text, in any language. You're not even doing it in the original language, or even using that language in it's original sequence. You failed to address even ONE of the points about why it's all crap. You also failed to address the question of what (so called) "codes" are found in other books. You have established no criteria that would falsify your "find". What you did do, was perform an ignorant exercise in "confirmation bias".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
Even if there was a "code" you failed to explain why THAT *proves* anything about a god, (of course it just happens to be YOUR god), and why she has to be so obtuse, and not speak her *proofs* so people can understand them, or why she waited for YOU (of all people) to discover them.
You suffer from, among other things, delusions of grandeur. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions , and possibly the (common here, among you so-called self-appointed "Bible experts"), the Dunning-Krueger effect : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%...ger_effect
And just like all insane people, YOU are the only one to see the pattern. And of course, just like all the other insane people who think THEY alone have discovered something about that set of scrolls, non-unanimously VOTED into a set of books, you have examined NONE of the other texts that were left out of the final canon, or any of the hundreds of other texts and apocrypha that were in once, but were eventually voted out of the Bible, or even one other text form the ancient Near East, Hebrew or not, in it's original language. Basically you are 110 % ignorant of the Bible, history, and the culture of the ancient Near East. Your entire exercise proves this. You are doing, what historians call "presentism". You are slapping a modern meaning onto ancient literary material that it never had, or intended. There is not one real scholar of the Bible in the entire world that agrees with your complete bull SHIT.
What you are, is a complete joke.
You utterly wasted your time.
You have no null hypothesis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_hypothesis
You examined no other set of texts, as a comparison.
You know no Hebrew, either archaic or modern.
You submitted your "find" to no peer review process.

(23-06-2013 12:00 PM)JesuisSean Wrote:  In other words, I had acquired a full understanding of what is known as Einstein's Special Principle of Relativity, and did so before having received any education at all in the field of physics.

This in turn created a very reliable, but very lengthy, equation of thought concerning whatever the subject was.

I see. No really I do. We are just a *little* impressed with our self I see. Snort. (LMAO).
Not just a "little" understanding, but a FULL understanding, and whatever the subject was.
I see.
Are you in a locked ward, or are you free to go out in public? Dodgy

Homo sapiens is the not the "tool making" monkey.
Homo sapiens is the "pattern seeking" monkey, (which then allows for and promotes tool making).
What you have done, is an example or exercise of what is known in Psychology as
"pareidolia", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
or apopohenia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

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24-06-2013, 07:40 AM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
I was just thinking that proclaiming myself prophet of god is pretty arrogant, but!

True Bible Codes proclaim that I am the Risen Christ!

Makes me feel kinda sane. Big Grin

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24-06-2013, 09:01 AM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(23-06-2013 12:00 PM)JesuisSean Wrote:  
(23-06-2013 10:42 AM)Chas Wrote:  The link you provided shows nothing different. It is sloppy analysis.

Wow, that was quick.

When I reach certainty about something, I have at least studied it for several years. If not studying the subject, I at least keep what is known of at the time in the back of my mind for further future analysis. I keep it detached from certainty.

For instance, as I was growing up, I noticed that the motion of objects that I saw occurring within this reality, was an impossible form of motion. I could not understand why other folks did not notice the obvious. I even pointed it out to one of my science teachers and he told me to sit down and shut up and that I did not know what I was talking about. But at a later date I looked closely at what was really going on concerning motion. Once understood, I created a rudimentary geometric representation of my understandings, and then used this geometric representation to convert my understandings into equations. I then borrowed my older brothers physics text book to see if my equations were shared by others. Sure enough, my equations were identical to the famous equations known as the Lorentz-Fitzgerald Contraction equation, the Time Dilation equation, the Lorentz Transformation equations, and the Velocity Addition equation.

In other words, I had acquired a full understanding of what is known as Einstein's Special Principle of Relativity, and did so before having received any education at all in the field of physics.

In other cases I did not achieve certainty until 35 years or so of on and off analysis had passed by. This in turn created a very reliable, but very lengthy, equation of thought concerning whatever the subject was. Thus in turn people thought that I was a stupid idiot because unlike them I was not able to jump to a frame of mind known of as certainty, and do so in a matter of minutes or seconds just as I was expected to do, just as others in general do.

Others, thought that the faster you could achieve certainty, the smarter you were.

Thus they thought that the shorter the equation is that you use to achieve certainty, the more reliable it is. Thus as far as they were concerned, if you work very hard for a very long time to develop a very reliable but lengthy equation that is used to achieve certainty, the stupider you were.

My finding the true proof of God's existence that was hidden within the Bible via True Bible Codes, was not the result of mere days, or weeks, or perhaps just a few years. Instead it took many years of thought to figure out how information would be encoded within the Bible. Once the code language was understood, you knew what to look for, and sure enough, when you looked, there it was right before your eyes just as you expected to see it.

JesuisSean Wrote:Go to http://goo.gl/38qhp and click on the flashing words "Watch / Listen". This takes you on a web page tour of such proof of God's existence, and does so via automatic web page scrolling along with complete audio coverage.

The sloppy code language folk use a computer to search and search and search until they find some kind of vague message that they think is a valid message.

In their case, they do not understand their sloppy code language. They do not think of what is to be found, and then find it immediately exactly as one saw it within ones mind.

Yes, that was quick. Not because I formed a quick opinion, but because I have already studied this. It' baloney.

I don't need to revisit previously proven conclusions unless there is new evidence.
You have not provided any.

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Science is not a subject, but a method.
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24-06-2013, 10:42 AM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
Sounds like I've' sparked some sensitive nerves.

You really should open yours eyes before it is too late.

http://www.outersecrets.com/real/2_motion.htm
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24-06-2013, 11:02 AM (This post was last modified: 24-06-2013 11:15 AM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(23-06-2013 12:00 PM)JesuisSean Wrote:  Sounds like I've' sparked some sensitive nerves.
You really should open yours eyes before it is too late.

Hardly.
Almost time for noon meds.
Be sure the nurse knows where you are.

No one takes that nonsense seriously.

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24-06-2013, 11:04 AM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(24-06-2013 10:42 AM)JesuisSean Wrote:  Sounds like I've' sparked some sensitive nerves.

You mean, like hemorroids? Consider

(24-06-2013 10:42 AM)JesuisSean Wrote:  You really should open yours eyes before it is too late.

http://www.outersecrets.com/real/2_motion.htm

Too late for what? You having a sale? Consider

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24-06-2013, 11:25 AM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(24-06-2013 10:42 AM)JesuisSean Wrote:  Sounds like I've' sparked some sensitive nerves.

You really should open yours eyes before it is too late.

http://www.outersecrets.com/real/2_motion.htm




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24-06-2013, 11:41 AM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(24-06-2013 10:42 AM)JesuisSean Wrote:  Sounds like I've' sparked some sensitive nerves.

You really should open yours eyes before it is too late.

http://www.outersecrets.com/real/2_motion.htm

Your argument has been ripped to shreds and you have no legitimate means of defending it?

No surprise there. Drinking Beverage

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24-06-2013, 11:45 AM
RE: Ivan Panin's "Proof".
(24-06-2013 11:25 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(24-06-2013 10:42 AM)JesuisSean Wrote:  Sounds like I've' sparked some sensitive nerves.

You really should open yours eyes before it is too late.

http://www.outersecrets.com/real/2_motion.htm




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