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18-05-2014, 02:21 PM (This post was last modified: 18-05-2014 02:25 PM by rampant.a.i..)
Jeremy E. Walker provides empirical evidence for the Christian God over other...
God. So this assertion doesn't fall through the cracks:


(18-05-2014 12:23 PM)Alex_Leonardo Wrote:  
(18-05-2014 12:10 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  [hide]Maybe you have been oblivious to my statements on my previous life as an atheist. I know women who are atheists. I talk with them personally.

Dismiss it if you will. I do not really care.

[/hide]You know, I know that not everyone denies God because of some intellectual resistance to the Bible. Some deny God because they love committing acts and living a certain way that is called SINFUL. Drinking Beverage
Jeremy, why do you believe in the God of the bible and not some other god?

(18-05-2014 12:30 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(18-05-2014 12:26 PM)Alex_Leonardo Wrote:  Seriously try to answer this one.

Empirical evidence.

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18-05-2014, 02:24 PM
RE: Jeremy E. Walker provides empirical evidence for the Christian God over other Gods
(18-05-2014 02:21 PM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  So this assertion doesn't fall through the cracks:

(18-05-2014 12:30 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Empirical evidence.

I think the way it came across is that the empirical evidence manifests itself in the form of a god if you pray a certain way. Not sure how one knows which god it is. Tongue

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18-05-2014, 02:32 PM
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He knows women atheists and talks to them personally! Blink

WOW! Impressive. Dodgy

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18-05-2014, 02:34 PM
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The evidence I speak of is something that comes after one has placed faith in Christ.

The presence of Christ in the heart of the redeemed is the empirical evidence I speak of and this presence is manifested through the life, actions, words, and thoughts of the redeemed.
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18-05-2014, 02:36 PM
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(18-05-2014 02:34 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  The evidence I speak of is something that comes after one has placed faith in Christ.

The presence of Christ in the heart of the redeemed is the empirical evidence I speak of and this presence is manifested through the life, actions, words, and thoughts of the redeemed.

You wouldn't know empirical evidence if it bit you in the ass.

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18-05-2014, 02:39 PM (This post was last modified: 18-05-2014 02:49 PM by rampant.a.i..)
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(18-05-2014 02:34 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  The evidence I speak of is something that comes after one has placed faith in Christ.

The presence of Christ in the heart of the redeemed is the empirical evidence I speak of and this presence is manifested through the life, actions, words, and thoughts of the redeemed.

That's just an unsupported claim without one shred of empirical evidence.

You claim to have empirical evidence, which you have been formally asked to provide.

Are you lying?

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18-05-2014, 02:48 PM
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(18-05-2014 02:39 PM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  
(18-05-2014 02:34 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  The evidence I speak of is something that comes after one has placed faith in Christ.

The presence of Christ in the heart of the redeemed is the empirical evidence I speak of and this presence is manifested through the life, actions, words, and thoughts of the redeemed.

That's just an unsupported claim without one shred of empirical evidence.

You claim to have empirical evidence, which you have been formally asked to provide.

Are you lying?

You have the same evidence I have. No I am not lying.
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18-05-2014, 02:48 PM
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What evidence?

If you can't produce it, one can only conclude you are lying.

Or are you actually presenting a veiled argument at populum by referencing people who also "believe Christ is present in their heart" as "empirical evidence" of the object of belief?

Because the same could be said for any other religious tradition's beliefs, and you claimed your distinction came from empirical evidence.

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18-05-2014, 02:50 PM
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(18-05-2014 02:48 PM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  What evidence?

Or are you actually presenting a veiled argument at populum by referencing people who also "believe Christ is present in their heart" as "empirical evidence" of the object of belief?

Because the same could be said for any other religious tradition's beliefs, and you claimed your distinction came from empirical evidence.

No. But if you will read Romans Chapter 1 you will know what evidence I speak of.
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18-05-2014, 02:51 PM (This post was last modified: 18-05-2014 03:00 PM by rampant.a.i..)
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So you're lying about empirical evidence.

Put another way, you're saying your "empirical evidence" is in fact an appeal ad populum to other followers who professes the same religious beliefs you do -- Just like any other religion, and do not have "empirical evidence" of any sort to distinguish belief in the Christian God from the God(s) of any other religion.

Quote:Romans Chapter 1

1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)

3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:

7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;[hide]

10 Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you.

11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;

12 That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me.

13 Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.

14 I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.

15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:[/hide]

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-Chapter-1/

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