Jesus Christ, A Pointless Sacrifice
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21-10-2015, 01:12 AM
RE: Jesus Christ, A Pointless Sacrifice
(20-10-2015 11:31 PM)morondog Wrote:  
(20-10-2015 11:18 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  he's slowly discovering how much he doesn't know.

He is? Seems to me that he has inexhaustible supplies of douchebaggery and cognitive dissonance...

Yeah...maybe it's only wishful thinking on my part.
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21-10-2015, 12:20 PM
RE: Jesus Christ, A Pointless Sacrifice
(20-10-2015 07:00 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  
(20-10-2015 12:29 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  What is your proof that Paul is a character from fiction rather than an actual person? Because more than one NT writer comments regarding Paul. We have documentary evidence. You?

If I write a comment about the flying spaghetti monster, does that make the FSM real?

If 9 writers write 100,000 words about Jesus, and 10 1st century non-Christian historians comment on Christianity, and the NT fulfills hundreds of prophecies... your comment is very far out of context...

I'm told atheists on forums like TTA are bitter and angry. If you are not, your posts to me will be respectful, insightful and thoughtful. Prove me wrong by your adherence to decent behavior.
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21-10-2015, 03:36 PM (This post was last modified: 21-10-2015 04:40 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Jesus Christ, A Pointless Sacrifice
(21-10-2015 12:20 PM)The Q Continuum Wrote:  
(20-10-2015 07:00 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  If I write a comment about the flying spaghetti monster, does that make the FSM real?

If 9 writers write 100,000 words about Jesus, and 10 1st century non-Christian historians comment on Christianity, and the NT fulfills hundreds of prophecies... your comment is very far out of context...

There is no such thing as "fulfilled prophecy". At least half of them didn't come true. Even if you accept the presentist interpretation of "prophecy as prediction". It's a false standard anyway. You know as well as we do that there is no level at which fundie believers would not believe, no matter how many they claim as "having come true". The role of a prophet was not to predict the future. It was to advise about what they thought was wise behavior, and what the outcome of decisions AT THE TIME would be for the community. I get that simpletons and those who *need* the Babble to be literally true don't have any room for the subtle nuances of acnient literature, but really, you should take a class or two before you keep making a fool of yoruself, Q.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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21-10-2015, 04:07 PM
RE: Jesus Christ, A Pointless Sacrifice
Goddamn it, Q Cunt, when are you going to get a fucking job?

God does not work in mysterious ways — he works in ways that are indistinguishable from his non-existence.
Jesus had a pretty rough weekend for your sins.
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21-10-2015, 09:21 PM (This post was last modified: 21-10-2015 09:53 PM by Deltabravo.)
RE: Jesus Christ, A Pointless Sacrifice
(20-10-2015 09:44 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(20-10-2015 09:40 PM)Deltabravo Wrote:  Like all these characters.

This is a product of a "literary guild" operating out of the Library of Alexandria.

Here is an example of this in Homer (not Simpson, ok haha):

The Homeridae were a family, clan or professional lineage on the island of Chios[1] claiming descent from the Greek epic poet Homer.

The origin of the name seems obvious: in classical Greek the word should mean "children of Homer". An analogous name, Asclepiadae, identified a clan or guild of medical practitioners as "children of Asclepius". However, since the existence of the Homeridae is authenticated while that of Homer is not, and since Greek homeros is a common noun meaning "hostage", it was suggested even in ancient times that the Homeridae were in reality "children (or descendants) of hostages". The natural further step is to argue that Homer, the supposed founder, is a mythical figure, a mere back-formation, deriving his name from that of the later guild.

Their influence on the dark early history of transmission of the Homeric texts, though incalculable, is sure to have been conservative.[2]

Evidence on the Homeridae relates to the late sixth, fifth and fourth centuries BC, after which nothing more is heard of them.

The first contemporary mention of this group is in a poem of about 485 BC by Pindar:

In the same way as the Homeridae,

Singers of stitched words, usually
Begin with an address to Zeus ...

[3]
A "singer of stitched words" is a literal definition of a rhapsode.


Mark, what you are doing is taking something which is written in a way which we don't understand and just assuming that when "Paul" is mentioned that whoever wrote about him is being straight about it. Why would that be the case in respect of a series of books, gospels and letters which talk about fictitious events. Of course, I assume that by coming here you accept that the events in the NT where Jesus walked on water, healed people, changed water into wine are fictitious and that it is meant to make people believe in things which are impossible, like resurrection.

So, surely the starting point is that it has to be a massive "hoax". All religions are fundamentally hoaxes intended to con people and that is why they are written anonymously, so that no one can get to the author, question the accuracy of what is said. It's a formula devised by ancient guilds who plied this craft out of places like the Library at Alexandria for the ruling elite's benefit. They were paid to write this stuff.

No doubt, it was the Masons or aliens, right ?

Hey, you got it right...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkXZf6o-Tjk

Bucky, it's not so difficult a concept to understand. http://chs.harvard.edu/CHS/article/display/5593
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21-10-2015, 09:26 PM (This post was last modified: 21-10-2015 09:30 PM by GirlyMan.)
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I have trouble acting normal when I'm nervous.

There is only one really serious philosophical question, and that is suicide. -Camus
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21-10-2015, 10:12 PM
RE: Jesus Christ, A Pointless Sacrifice
See, Bucky, the truth is that the "Jews" were actually proto-Welsh shepherds. It's obvious because the whole of the New Testament and the history of this age was written by a Welshman. Joe Matthews. The Jews were Hyksos, which means Shepherd Kings and who are the world's most famous race of shepherd's, the Welsh. See, Bucky, it's all here about the Welsh People being "The Chosen People". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_people

And they can sing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMMUve9nd4E

So, give up, Bucky. Submit.. Admit you're wrong...

I'm waiting.
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21-10-2015, 11:13 PM
RE: Jesus Christ, A Pointless Sacrifice
See, Bucky, it was the Welsh who went into Captivity, not the Jews:

http://www.jstor.org/stable/30069003?Sea...b_contents

The truth is out now, Bucky, and there is no stopping it. Here are some Welsh singers for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ybv4DOj-N0
Psalm 137
1 By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept
when we remembered Zion.
2 There on the poplars
we hung our harps,
3 for there our captors asked us for songs,
our tormentors demanded songs of joy;
they said, “Sing us one of the songs of Zion!”
4 How can we sing the songs of the Lord
while in a foreign land?
5 If I forget you, Jerusalem,
may my right hand forget its skill.
6 May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth
if I do not remember you,
if I do not consider Jerusalem
my highest joy.
7 Remember, Lord, what the Edomites did
on the day Jerusalem fell.
“Tear it down,” they cried,
“tear it down to its foundations!”
8 Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
happy is the one who repays you
according to what you have done to us.
9 Happy is the one who seizes your infants
and dashes them against the rocks.
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21-10-2015, 11:18 PM
RE: Jesus Christ, A Pointless Sacrifice
WTF are you babbling about DB? You can only do sarcasm if your audience is gonna figure out that you're being sarcastic. You're so fucken loopy that you might well be serious.

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21-10-2015, 11:38 PM
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See, Bucky, this is role playing.

You are crazy like a fool and I am...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtxlCsVKkvY
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