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16-01-2012, 02:51 PM
RE: Jesus>Religion
(16-01-2012 10:12 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  I "get" what he's saying, but I think he's wrong. Jesus established the Christian religion and adhered to the law.

But not always literally(not stoning the adulteress) , which I think is this guys point, people are putting their religious rules IN FRONT of Jesus' teachings, which is definitely wrong.

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"Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world"

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16-01-2012, 02:55 PM
RE: Jesus>Religion
(16-01-2012 02:51 PM)Sharks9 Wrote:  
(16-01-2012 10:12 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  I "get" what he's saying, but I think he's wrong. Jesus established the Christian religion and adhered to the law.

But not always literally(not stoning the adulteress) , which I think is this guys point, people are putting their religious rules IN FRONT of Jesus' teachings, which is definitely wrong.

Yeah, that's what I meant when I said I "get" it. However, the dude puts way too much emphasis on Jesus "hating" religion; which just isn't true.

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16-01-2012, 04:00 PM
RE: Jesus>Religion
(16-01-2012 10:12 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  I "get" what he's saying, but I think he's wrong. Jesus established the Christian religion and adhered to the law.

No, people coming after Jesus established the religion. And it took a couple of hundred years to even begin to sort out which version.

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16-01-2012, 04:10 PM
RE: Jesus>Religion
(16-01-2012 10:12 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  I "get" what he's saying, but I think he's wrong. Jesus established the Christian religion and adhered to the law.

..... Paul established the Christian religion and used Jesus as his "poster boy" roll model. Just throwing that in there..

I know, I know bad timing and all but.. um... yeah.

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16-01-2012, 04:16 PM
RE: Jesus>Religion
Bad choice of words (man, been doing that a lot lately)...

I meant Jesus was the example for the foundation of the religion. He presented the teachings (founding it), but then others collected the teachings and gave it a title.

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16-01-2012, 04:24 PM
RE: Jesus>Religion
(16-01-2012 04:16 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Bad choice of words (man, been doing that a lot lately)...

I meant Jesus was the example for the foundation of the religion. He presented the teachings (founding it), but then others collected the teachings and gave it a title.

And they made some of it up to suit their own purposes.

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16-01-2012, 04:57 PM
RE: Jesus>Religion
(16-01-2012 04:24 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(16-01-2012 04:16 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Bad choice of words (man, been doing that a lot lately)...

I meant Jesus was the example for the foundation of the religion. He presented the teachings (founding it), but then others collected the teachings and gave it a title.

And they made some of it up to suit their own purposes.

And completely perverted the message, IMO.

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16-01-2012, 05:11 PM (This post was last modified: 16-01-2012 05:33 PM by houseofcantor.)
RE: Jesus>Religion
(13-01-2012 02:37 PM)ShirubaDangan Wrote:  I'll right this wrong.

Zero-state morality, as an absolute, coming from a source that ain't me. Angel

Theism - I love Gwyneth Paltow
Atheism - I love

Evolution in action. Wink
(16-01-2012 04:16 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Bad choice of words (man, been doing that a lot lately)...

Like, "completely normal?" Aintchu got no math? Big Grin
(15-01-2012 02:50 AM)Jackrabbit Wrote:  I also hate mohammed...

The unity between you and I finds positions of moral clarity. I had no fixed opinion on Mohammed until after becoming a journeyman prophet. Those last two words never need be removed from my identity in an objective reality where John Cantor is a known psychopath. Wink

Keep it short, we might agree, huh? Big Grin

But "I write" seems to follow directly from "I love" - this mofo get to writing - and in topical considerations, hate is the fuel of love's fire.

If Gwyneth were around, you wouldn't be seeing all this entropy. Big Grin

Having moral clarity of "what is wrong" inspired religion from Jesus. What we have that no other culture in history did - is this - instant global communication. The miracle lets all those others fade to black. It is merely local pattern reinforcement that turns "I love" into "we hate, let's kill."

You ain't helping me kill for my Gwynnies - that's absurd. Killing is the absolute in censorship. Rather than think in terms of censorship, I work from archetype; exposure to information should only be limited in terms in providing a baseline for evil other than Satan. One does not study the calculus before the algebra, in a similar manner one should not study the pornography before sexual maturity.

You wanna Jesus spouting off about hell? NC-17.

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16-01-2012, 06:48 PM
RE: Jesus>Religion
Yes, people place religion in front of most things: Intelligence, Humanity, Government etc. Things that should benefit all mankind they turn against unless it benefits themselves specifically.

With the former posts that talked about charity, some people do believe they are superior than you and myself. We aren't human compared to them. We haven't committed enough rapes or genocides to be known as equals. We are monsters compared to them. If you are part of any religion you will be compelled to feel superior than others.

Jesus was used as a terrible weapon. These men used him to gain what they liked. They hated homosexuality, equality for women, and wanted a way for old men to molests small children. Yes the religious have become blind to some of your prophet's teachings and that isn't anyone else's fault besides the theists.

Sharks, I am still waiting for an answer to my post. Is it right to believe anyone is greater because of their supposed "generosity"?

I'm insanely against inequality. Sorry if I sound hostile but I am not a friend to superiority.

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16-01-2012, 08:54 PM (This post was last modified: 16-01-2012 09:56 PM by Thomas.)
RE: Jesus>Religion
Jesus is no more real than Santa Clause.

"Even the Devil believes in God"
"Even the Elves believe in Santa"

People are fucking stupid. End of story.

The old gods are dead, let's invent some new ones before something really bad happens.
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