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22-08-2015, 08:33 AM
RE: Jesus hated the church system because ....
(20-08-2015 09:40 PM)Davidjayjordan Wrote:  Which of the prophets has not the church system killed....... This whether before Christs arrival and his death at their hands or after his departure with the centuries of killing and wars the church system has promoted and done.

The scribes and pharisees of the law, the church people have always wanted blood and death. Their being no difference when Jesus came. He did them no wrong, except overturning their money changing tables, and their false rituals, and showing up their false teachings to the common people.

Woe is unto them as the good loving Lord, said over and over again.

Have things changed absolutely not, the church systems, the religiouis systems of today are exactly the same with the exact same motivation and dementia, and they are war mongering and dangerous. Stay away from them, avoid them at all costs, for they are in bed with the ******** system and those in power. For together they aim to control and enslave..... as they have done for eons.....

Will atheism change their modus operandi, maybe a little, but their voice is so weak and disjointed....

The hypocracy of the church system is blatantly obvious and apalling, but will atheism help enlighten outsiders or insiders in the church system see that hypocracy...I doubt it, especially seeing that most atheists do not use the power of the written word very well and do not seem concerned very much about showing the hypocracy of the evil church system. Maybe its because they are so afraid of siding with Jesus on this issue, that they just become trash talkers, rather than a clear penetrating voice against hypocarcy and the dslavery that the church system promotes.

Jesus wasn't a prophet. Real prophets dont exist. Prophets, like god, are/were created by man. I agree hat the church is a power organization. Fear of the unknown has been exploited by powerful people since the beginning of civilization. Religion's engine is fear, so of course churches are by and large appalling organizations that sell misinformation served up with a large dose of fear. Nothing fills the offering plates like gullible, scared, sick and elderly people looking for paradise after death.

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22-08-2015, 08:47 AM
RE: Jesus hated the church system because ....
(21-08-2015 03:20 PM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  
(21-08-2015 12:47 AM)Davidjayjordan Wrote:  The force only comes to those that are ready, and have been searching for truths, and are awake.

Not a Poe... he's a Jedi!

Nah, he is an Inquisitor Tongue


(An Inquisitor is a dark force sensitive Agent of the Empire who hunts down surviving Jedi after Order 66)

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22-08-2015, 09:29 AM
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I'm playing (a different sort of) an Inquisitor in a Pathfinder RPG every Tuesday night. Big Grin

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22-08-2015, 09:37 AM
RE: Jesus hated the church system because ....
Please stick to the topic ..Thanks

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Consider the following, as more proof that Jesus opposed the vile wrathful, hateful, violent church system.

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Church or Love or Church of War
I know many of you will balk at thinking the present church system is bad and vile and ungodly and unChristian, as most of
you surely think that it it sort of a descendant of the early true church. Therefore in your minds, you think the early church must
have been asexual as well, and only driven by platonic love, and the milk and toast doctrines you hear in todays church and
maybe just a little more SPIRIT.

Sorry, you are going to have to come to the reality that the early church of JESUS was not anything like todays church. There
was a gradual eroding of doctrines and truths and practises so that it turned into just the opposite of a love church and into a
WAR CHURCH. It's the same dam asexual pretense hypocritical power mongering church as that of the Scribes and Pharisees.

They control through false doctrines of force, fear, intimidation and literally war. If you didn't know it, todays war churches,
favor war and believe they are just defending themselves from other countries, who are all enemies of theirs and of Israel. They
are in bed with the political system of today, as I have been mentioning about the false church fornicating with the Roman
political system. (SEE Rev 17)

Matter of fact, on one so called Christian discussion board, I was just kicked off of, they literally made a RULE, that no
pacifiscist post could be written, on opposing war or the writer would be excommunicated and kicked off instantly. I was kicked
off in two days. Don't believe it. I received this in a group emailing....

The Wisdom of War and Self Defense

The Lord Jesus Christ, the second member of the triune Godhead, is that one true God who, in spite of his hatred of and
opposition to war, uses it among "unsaved" men to judge and execute justice against the nations and competing religions,
especially when it centers around the Jewish people and the land of Israel. (Excerpt)

Sorry Brethren but the Jewish nation is not saved or blessed or better than others, as all nations are nothing with the Lord, as
He has always just looked at individual hearts. Wars are for control and greed, same as in Roman days except worse as we head
for the End before the New BEGINNING.

Jewish worldly wars are not something Christian worldly nations are suppose to join in together with. We are suppose to be
dedicated to love not war. Love is stronger than war and violence and force. Love conquers all. Love is just the opposite of war.
A love church is just the opposite of a war church, as church just means a body of believers, and whole bodies called churches in
the present day are for war. They think the wars they are sending their kids and other kids into are self defense and for the good
of their enemies to so called bring them peace, when they occupy that country for 'advantage'

1From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?

2Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.

3Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

4Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a
friend of the world is the enemy of God. (James 4: 1-4)

This is the lust of the present day church and what the early church turned into, its called the lusting for war and greed for
things and materialism. The war encouraging sponsoring church system of today is friends and partners and mated with the war
governments and polityical systems that back war and war economies.

A love church is diametrically opposed to a war church. They are as different as night is to day. The early church was not a half
baked, compromising wishy washy bunch of half hearted weaklings who loved the present system of their time, the Romans.

Jesus taught them all things, and they knew each other thoroughly because they laid down their whole lives for one another, as
well as having all out love feasts with one another. No other option of composition is logical rational, or reasonable. if they were
luke warm, the Lord would have cast them out of His mouth and thrown them away at conception. But NO< those luke warm
compromising friends of the system churches were shaping up about sixty years after Jesus started the original early church.

Jesus church was totally into love, and this is why it was such a threat to the Roman political system. Because the Romans
were totally based on control, violence, and war. The Christians didn't fight with weapons but just with love, and love was
conquering them, until the inside compromisers of the early church changed the fervor of the early Church into luke warm
platonic milk and toast love and worldly love for the system.

When the compromise was complete, THEN and ONLY THEN, could the now deviate perverted compromised church system
be part and subservient to the Roman war machine and become its indoctrinating state religion. And so it has been ever since. The
early CHURCH started with real sexual love and real caring love but was overtaken and destroyed by Paulian compromise and
the Nicolaitane hierarchies, so that it became the church of war. Sad but true.

Yet the true CHURCH has to get back to its root of real love and real care and real dedication of the early Church, and it will
because we are the last chance for the Lord to show them His LOVE.



IHS

David


(From http://www.davidjayjordan.com/ChurchofLove.html )
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22-08-2015, 09:43 AM
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(22-08-2015 09:37 AM)Davidjayjordan Wrote:  Please stick to the topic ..Thanks

Except your topic is absurd.

Atheism isn't about churches or differences in theology. It is the lack of belief in any gods.

Got it?

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22-08-2015, 10:11 AM
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He thinks he's a preacher. It'd be charming if he was better at it.

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22-08-2015, 10:12 AM
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(22-08-2015 10:11 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  He thinks he's a preacher. It'd be charming if he was better at it.

He can think?!?

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22-08-2015, 10:15 AM
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GIGO. Drinking Beverage

But the sheer volume is worth a small footnote under "bloviate" in the dictionary.

We have enough youth. How about looking for the Fountain of Smart?
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22-08-2015, 10:16 AM (This post was last modified: 22-08-2015 10:19 AM by TheInquisition.)
RE: Jesus hated the church system because ....
(22-08-2015 09:37 AM)Davidjayjordan Wrote:  The Christians didn't fight with weapons but just with love, and love was
conquering them, until the inside compromisers of the early church changed the fervor of the early Church into luke warm
platonic milk and toast love and worldly love for the system.

Until they got power, then they used swords:

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You strike me as a Marcionite, someone that believes the god of the Old testament is an evil god and the Jesus man/god construct of the new testament is about love and a distinctly separate god.

That doesn't wash either, the New testament Jesus ushered in division and the extermination of pagan religions by the sword.

You're just another poser that invented your own personal religion and now you troll forums with your nonsense, hoping that there are enough fools that will buy into it so you can get what?

Money?
Sex?
Power?
Undeserved adoration?

You can be honest here, most of us here understand that's what all religions are really about, feel free to confess.

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

Using the supernatural to explain events in your life is a failure of the intellect to comprehend the world around you. -The Inquisition
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22-08-2015, 10:27 AM
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(22-08-2015 10:16 AM)TheInquisition Wrote:  confess.

Confess! Confess! It's even better that the post is from TheInquisition.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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