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22-11-2014, 05:33 AM
RE: Jesus historicity
(22-11-2014 05:08 AM)Luckyluciano Wrote:  
(21-11-2014 10:53 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  Read the forum rules. This is a forum, not a censor board.
Can't help but wonder how many potential quality posters must stay away because of the lack of self-censorship when it comes to choice of language and character attacks and the appeal to emotion rather than intellect under the guise of self expression and freedom of speech.

Doesn't appeal to everyone... Such is life. I *like* being able to cut loose without some mod looking over my shoulder and telling me not to use naughty words.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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22-11-2014, 06:52 AM (This post was last modified: 22-11-2014 09:17 AM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Jesus historicity
(22-11-2014 04:51 AM)Luckyluciano Wrote:  
(21-11-2014 11:00 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  Really? Must there also have been a "historical" Osiris, or Thor, or Quetzlcoatl, or Shiva, or Marduk, etc? Myth is a powerful force in human imagination. The insistence that all other myths are simply myths but 'jesus' must have had a real person behind it is little more than special pleading.

There is near unanimity among scholars that Jesus existed historically......

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

The trouble is, pretty much the only people who care or study the "Historicity of Jesus" at all, are religious people who are BOUND to say that he existed, (have an inherent conflict of interest, because they are employed by religious institutions who would FIRE them if they said otherwise). Dr. Richard Carrier IS a "serious scholar" with serious POINTS to rebut. No one ever rebuts his POINTS. So instead of *claiming* that everyone says something about something with no poll of disinterested parties who have EVIDENCE to present, lets see the evidence, (and the poll). The fact is, there is no good evidence, or way to distinguish the (supposed) Jesus of Nazareth from all the other messiah figures of the day, all of whom had very similar attributes and tales told about them.

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22-11-2014, 07:07 AM
RE: Jesus historicity
(21-11-2014 10:42 PM)Luckyluciano Wrote:  Such language. Such attitude. Everyone has been here longer than me therefore has squatting rights but I find vulgarity offensive and distasteful. Is it really necessary to communicate in this way. Seth Andrews level of communication is on a higher wavelength rather than what is often expressed here so why is this forum not following in his form.
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22-11-2014, 07:16 AM
RE: Jesus historicity
(22-11-2014 05:08 AM)Luckyluciano Wrote:  
(21-11-2014 10:53 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  Read the forum rules. This is a forum, not a censor board.


Can't help but wonder how many potential quality posters must stay away because of the lack of self-censorship when it comes to choice of language and character attacks and the appeal to emotion rather than intellect under the guise of self expression and freedom of speech.

Lemme guess one? Shocking You sailed into this harbor under your own power skippy, mind the navigational bouys on the way out.

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22-11-2014, 09:09 AM
RE: Jesus historicity
(22-11-2014 05:08 AM)Luckyluciano Wrote:  
(21-11-2014 10:53 PM)WillHopp Wrote:  Read the forum rules. This is a forum, not a censor board.


Can't help but wonder how many potential quality posters must stay away because of the lack of self-censorship when it comes to choice of language and character attacks and the appeal to emotion rather than intellect under the guise of self expression and freedom of speech.

I can't help but wonder how many potential quality posters must stay away because of the lack of quality grammar displayed in your last post. Please refrain from run-on sentences; they hurt my eyes. Smartass

Do you see my point? Where does it end? I'm much more offended at poor grammar than a cuss word. There is nothing juvenile or illiterate about using words you may find distasteful. I listen to the idea that's being conveyed, which is most important. If the simple arrangement of a few letters forms a word you deem offensive, why let that keep you from learning and exchanging ideas? A timid mind never accomplishes anything. Get some thick skin or you'll hate it here.

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22-11-2014, 09:22 AM
RE: Jesus historicity
(21-11-2014 10:42 PM)Luckyluciano Wrote:  
(21-11-2014 05:30 PM)Free Wrote:  My take on all this is simple.

The historical Jesus got his ass handed to him by the Romans, who strung him up on a couple of sticks and told him to go fuck himself.

The mythical Jesus can blow me.

Pizza anyone?

Such language. Such attitude. Everyone has been here longer than me therefore has squatting rights but I find vulgarity offensive and distasteful. Is it really necessary to communicate in this way. Seth Andrews level of communication is on a higher wavelength rather than what is often expressed here so why is this forum not following in his form.
Are there no moderators.

I unequivocally understand your concerns, but this is a "mature" forum that deals in reality, and the reality here is that we are fully permitted to speak freely using mature language.

Some of the most respected people on earth also use such language, and they often use it on a podium in front of large crowds. This forum is not for the meek or easily offended. On this forum, when you want to get a point across you do so with zeal and determination, and you speak the language of the masses.

When in Rome ...

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22-11-2014, 12:10 PM
RE: Jesus historicity
(22-11-2014 09:22 AM)Free Wrote:  When in Rome ...

fuck like a Roman!

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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22-11-2014, 06:40 PM
RE: Jesus historicity
"The foolish and wicked practice of profane cursing and swearing is a vice so mean and low that every person of sense and character detests and despises it." -George Washington

"Such as thy words are, such will thine affections be esteemed; and such as thine affections, will be thy deeds; and such as thy deeds will be thy life/Socrates
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22-11-2014, 06:47 PM
RE: Jesus historicity
Yeah - what possible reason could a bunch of 'theologians' have for insisting that their fucking god boy is real? Whatever could it be....I wonder.

"Jesus" exists no where except in the pages of a seriously edited and forged book. If I stick to Homer I can prove that Apollo is real and I bet you'd scream your fucking ass off if I did that, lucky.

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22-11-2014, 06:51 PM
RE: Jesus historicity
(22-11-2014 06:40 PM)Luckyluciano Wrote:  "The foolish and wicked practice of profane cursing and swearing is a vice so mean and low that every person of sense and character detests and despises it." -George Washington

"Such as thy words are, such will thine affections be esteemed; and such as thine affections, will be thy deeds; and such as thy deeds will be thy life/Socrates

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