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02-04-2016, 11:40 PM
RE: Jesus is Lord
(02-04-2016 06:24 PM)Deltabravo Wrote:  According to Matthew, he was a descendant of the royal line of whatever people you want to call his people, going back to David.

Abraham left Ur...right? So he was a Sumerian. The Sumerian people spread north and became known as Armenians and they occupied the area we now call Turkey and Syria. Josephus says the Jews were from Armenia. They or their ruling class invaded Egypt, then left, then were captured and taken to Babylon before being freed. This means, according to Matthew that Jesus was a prince of the royal line of Armenians/Sumerians. As that empire had collapsed and was under Roman rule, the story of Jesus is about someone who saw himself as the rightful king of the Armenians. The NT story is about him using a new religious doctrine to rally support for himself and his "earls" or "counts", the disciples. This is a military, political story and if you read it that way, with the King being a God, then the story is plausible, not wildishly outlandish. His mother was impregnated by a king, a god, who was likely a member of her own family since Matthew recounts how Jesus is a lineal descendant of David, which he couldn't be if he was the child of an invisible sky fairy who visited his mum and somehow knocked her up. He then converts to this new religion, of which there is external evidence, which was Hellenistic and Roman, and he used his position as a Rabbi and royal prince to try to stage a revolt in Judea. That seems fairly obvious from the story of his question to the Jewish leaders, ie., did they think he was actually the son of god or did they fear him because he had the support of the people. Of course, they obfuscated, saying they didn't know.

All that, to me, is political dialogue.

I don't think much has changed in the Middle East. The religion Jesus was surrounded by in Syria and the Levant was Abrahamistic. He was preaching a Hellenistic moral philosophy based on god being the "Logos" or reason. This leads to the concept of "do unto others as they would do unto you" just as Kant sets out in his Critique of Pure Reason.

If we look at the NT as a work written to convert the Armenian people of the Levant to a reason based religion, we have a similar situation to what we still have in that area. Islam is nothing more than Abrahaism with a new book, which no one reads. All the key practices of Islam are Abrahamistic. Some people converted to Christianity, some didn't. Those who didn't were probably poor and ignorant and conservative, which is what the Middle East is today and we can see the need for a morality there which is similar to what is or was being put forward by Jesus, by Paul and the Romans, to pacify a brutalistic religion in Syria.

The name, Turkey, by the way, comes from the work "Tur" which is Akkadian for Sumeria. Turkish is just Sumerian and the Turks venerate the Nazar which is the eye of Horus. The Turks are therefore Armenians in reality but the Seljuk Turks are the descendants of Armenians who spread out eastward into Asia and intermarried with Asian peoples and did not adopt Roman Christianity. They remained Abrahmistic and then adopted Islam, returned to Turkey and overthrew Constantinople and, over time, cleansed the area of Christians and other religious and ethnic minorities, right up to the Armenian Genocide in the early 20th century. Turks, sadly, are intense racists and much of their problem now is that they hate the Kurds, who they consider to be apostates even though they are Muslims as well. There is now a virtual civil war under way in Turkey.
No one cares about what's in your spank bank DB now shut the fuck up.

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03-04-2016, 03:53 AM (This post was last modified: 03-04-2016 03:57 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Jesus is Lord
(02-04-2016 11:33 PM)morondog Wrote:  Rolleyes DeltaBravo's back.

Listen chum, if you're that good. Bloody well publish. Cheap thrills on a net forum trying to get adulation from people who know you're a charlatan. Is there anything sadder?

Yes there is. But that's between him, a bottle of KY lube, and that Fleshlight with a picture of Jesus stapled to it.



Like this, but less green.

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03-04-2016, 05:53 AM
RE: Jesus is Lord
Well it was his little April Fools' turd he stopped by to drop on TTA.
He probably wasn't even serious.

He couldn't have been serious.
Right ?
Facepalm

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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