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14-01-2016, 09:55 AM
RE: Jesus's genealogy problem
(14-01-2016 09:31 AM)theophilus Wrote:  The genealogy in Luke is that of Mary.

https://carm.org/bible-difficulties/matt...and-luke-3

Joseph was not biologically related to Jesus but Matthew gives his genealogy because it was through him that inherited his right to be king of the Jews.

https://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2015/0...ng-joseph/

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14-01-2016, 09:57 AM
RE: Jesus's genealogy problem
(14-01-2016 09:31 AM)theophilus Wrote:  The genealogy in Luke is that of Mary.

https://carm.org/bible-difficulties/matt...and-luke-3

Joseph was not biologically related to Jesus but Matthew gives his genealogy because it was through him that inherited his right to be king of the Jews.

https://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2015/0...ng-joseph/

First of all:
Where are the documents and records?
What historical documents from his time, mention christ?
What non-christian sources?

None.

Second:
Even if you could document a genealogy, which you can't, you would have to document a supernatural aspect to that. And you can't do that either.

Thirdly:
If the supernatural aspect was true, if jesus was god's son, then Joseph was NOT jesus' father. Thus he was not in line for the throne, thus the entire idea of jesus being king of the Jews would be based on a LIE

(Wasn't there a commandment about that somewhere?)

Fourthly:
The whole king-ship, royalty thing was for the House of David. Which according to the promise of god wasn't supposed to end. Which ended centuries earlier.

At what point does any of this make sense?

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14-01-2016, 09:57 AM
RE: Jesus's genealogy problem
Total bullshit. Both have Joe listed after Jesus.

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He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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14-01-2016, 09:58 AM
RE: Jesus's genealogy problem
(14-01-2016 09:47 AM)Imathinker Wrote:  I wonder what would happen if you sequenced jesus's dna. Scrape some off the shroud of turin or whatever. Or get some from a eucharist.

They did scrape it. They got paint. Big Grin

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14-01-2016, 10:26 AM
RE: Jesus's genealogy problem
(14-01-2016 09:31 AM)theophilus Wrote:  The genealogy in Luke is that of Mary.

https://carm.org/bible-difficulties/matt...and-luke-3

Joseph was not biologically related to Jesus but Matthew gives his genealogy because it was through him that inherited his right to be king of the Jews.

https://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2015/0...ng-joseph/

A quote from your CARM link:

Notice that Luke starts with Mary and goes backwards to Adam.

That is a blatant lie, here is the scripture word for word:

Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

It doesn't even mention Mary in the genealogy! Her name doesn't even appear in the entire chapter!

The only sources that mention Mary's parents are from the apocrypha, her father was Joachim, not Heli.

This is where apologists simply lie to prop up their fantasies.

There is no historical documentation that supports Mary having parents other than Sts. Joachim and Anne.

Mary's genealogy

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14-01-2016, 10:53 AM
RE: Jesus's genealogy problem
(14-01-2016 09:47 AM)Imathinker Wrote:  I wonder what would happen if you sequenced jesus's dna. Scrape some off the shroud of turin or whatever. Or get some from a eucharist.

It appears that god back 2000 years ago didn't know about DNA. Wonder why.Dodgy

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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14-01-2016, 12:33 PM
RE: Jesus's genealogy problem
(14-01-2016 09:47 AM)Imathinker Wrote:  I wonder what would happen if you sequenced jesus's dna. Scrape some off the shroud of turin or whatever. Or get some from a eucharist.

Are you insinuating there is Jesus jizz on the eucharist????? Gasp

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14-01-2016, 12:51 PM
RE: Jesus's genealogy problem
(14-01-2016 12:33 PM)The Organic Chemist Wrote:  
(14-01-2016 09:47 AM)Imathinker Wrote:  I wonder what would happen if you sequenced jesus's dna. Scrape some off the shroud of turin or whatever. Or get some from a eucharist.

Are you insinuating there is Jesus jizz on the eucharist????? Gasp

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14-01-2016, 01:21 PM
RE: Jesus's genealogy problem
(14-01-2016 12:33 PM)The Organic Chemist Wrote:  
(14-01-2016 09:47 AM)Imathinker Wrote:  I wonder what would happen if you sequenced jesus's dna. Scrape some off the shroud of turin or whatever. Or get some from a eucharist.

Are you insinuating there is Jesus jizz on the eucharist????? Gasp

There might be some priest jizz on the eucharist.




I can't believe I just typed that.Rolleyes

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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14-01-2016, 01:21 PM
RE: Jesus's genealogy problem
(14-01-2016 12:33 PM)The Organic Chemist Wrote:  
(14-01-2016 09:47 AM)Imathinker Wrote:  I wonder what would happen if you sequenced jesus's dna. Scrape some off the shroud of turin or whatever. Or get some from a eucharist.

Are you insinuating there is Jesus jizz on the eucharist????? Gasp

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