Jesus was a terrorist!
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09-12-2016, 07:03 PM
RE: Jesus was a terrorist!
(09-12-2016 04:26 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Would you call jesus a dick.

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10-12-2016, 10:14 AM
RE: Jesus was a terrorist!
(09-12-2016 04:26 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Would you call jesus a dick.

Who cares? Do you have a point to make?

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10-12-2016, 02:52 PM
RE: Jesus was a terrorist!
(09-12-2016 07:36 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 09:24 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  You either haven't read my arguments, or you don't understand them.

If you care to really contribute something other than noise, please address something specific, otherwise piss off.

No I read your OP, and some of your subsequent comments. And it appears that your entire case here, rests on what you imagine a "pure blooded jew" at the time would be. In fact it seems built on the belief that all pure blooded jews, would have responded the same way towards their oppression, and political situation. Which is not true, Martin and Malcolm, are one example.

You seem unable to believe that any pure blooded jew would have responded the way Jesus responded in the gospels, or even the very communities these texts belonged too.

You are just repeating yourself. You haven't understood my arguments. The gospels give many hints Jesus was militant.
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10-12-2016, 03:56 PM
RE: Jesus was a terrorist!
(10-12-2016 02:52 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  You are just repeating yourself. You haven't understood my arguments. The gospels give many hints Jesus was militant.

Militant? Perhaps. A terrorist? I think not. Jesus in the gospels didn't advocate the use of violence for political gain, in particular violence for the sake of the overthrow of Rome. He's more an MLK than a Malcolm X.

His early followers, weren't particularly prone to endorsing violence either.

The historical evidence doesn't support your particular revisionism.

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11-12-2016, 04:30 PM (This post was last modified: 11-12-2016 05:11 PM by Mark Fulton.)
RE: Jesus was a terrorist!
(10-12-2016 03:56 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(10-12-2016 02:52 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  You are just repeating yourself. You haven't understood my arguments. The gospels give many hints Jesus was militant.

Militant? Perhaps. A terrorist? I think not. Jesus in the gospels didn't advocate the use of violence for political gain, in particular violence for the sake of the overthrow of Rome. He's more an MLK than a Malcolm X.

His early followers, weren't particularly prone to endorsing violence either.

The historical evidence doesn't support your particular revisionism.

So you keep saying. Yet, once again, you are not addressing any specifics of my argument. I have written a lot as to why this character was likely militant, and you haven't addressed those arguments specifically, so please give reasons for your opinion, not just your opinion, and we can discuss.
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11-12-2016, 04:54 PM
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Reza Aslan thinks he was.

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11-12-2016, 06:05 PM
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Uhm...the Christ was a pacifist. Terrorism usually involves invoking terror through atrocious physical acts. The sword is one of spiritual discernment as it pertains to self, and in no way implies physical death by the hands of man or Christ.

What a joke
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11-12-2016, 06:42 PM (This post was last modified: 11-12-2016 07:14 PM by Mark Fulton.)
RE: Jesus was a terrorist!
(11-12-2016 06:05 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Uhm...the Christ was a pacifist. Terrorism usually involves invoking terror through atrocious physical acts. The sword is one of spiritual discernment as it pertains to self, and in no way implies physical death by the hands of man or Christ.

What a joke

You think "the Christ" was a pacifist because you don't understand the history, and you haven't read your gospels with a critical eye.

Also, I suggest you look up the definition of terrorism...here is one...

"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims..."
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11-12-2016, 09:39 PM
RE: Jesus was a terrorist!
(11-12-2016 06:42 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  
(11-12-2016 06:05 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Uhm...the Christ was a pacifist. Terrorism usually involves invoking terror through atrocious physical acts. The sword is one of spiritual discernment as it pertains to self, and in no way implies physical death by the hands of man or Christ.

What a joke

You think "the Christ" was a pacifist because you don't understand the history, and you haven't read your gospels with a critical eye.

Also, I suggest you look up the definition of terrorism...here is one...

"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims..."

What history have youv read and whats your intepretation of jesus and the new testament with your critical eye.
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11-12-2016, 10:05 PM
RE: Jesus was a terrorist!
(11-12-2016 09:39 PM)socialistview Wrote:  
(11-12-2016 06:42 PM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  You think "the Christ" was a pacifist because you don't understand the history, and you haven't read your gospels with a critical eye.

Also, I suggest you look up the definition of terrorism...here is one...

"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims..."

What history have youv read and whats your intepretation of jesus and the new testament with your critical eye.

Read posts 79 and 80, and check out my list of references.
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