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01-02-2017, 01:32 AM
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(31-01-2017 05:43 PM)ImFred Wrote:  I just think it's interesting. I don't really know but I think Poland has been changing very quickly.

It has been but change is skin deep in regard to society - authoritarianism is still strong and nationalism is on the rise. Fact that right wingers are decrying former regime of which some people are fond doesn't help, just like their witch hunts for "communist agents". Economy changed quickly indeed but it hardly went in good direction.

Quote:I'm off topic. I just think it's cool that you're Polish.

I would prefer not to be.

Quote:I have a Polish internet friend. He knows an incredible lot about music. I taught English in Korea and Japan and thought about Poland but it's hard for Americans to get work there.

I have no idea but I would say that there are no sense in coming here.

(31-01-2017 05:50 PM)BrianChariott Wrote:  Good point, but I think we can both agree it turned out counterproductive in 2016. Maybe there's a balance somewhere in the middle.

There can be no balance if one side is good at slinging shit as it has unfortunate habit of sticking.

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01-02-2017, 08:24 PM
RE: Journalists Face Felony Charges in Mass Arrests during Inauguration
(01-02-2017 01:32 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(31-01-2017 05:50 PM)BrianChariott Wrote:  Good point, but I think we can both agree it turned out counterproductive in 2016. Maybe there's a balance somewhere in the middle.

There can be no balance if one side is good at slinging shit as it has unfortunate habit of sticking.

Both sides sling shit. The right calls the left commies, and the left calls the right fascists. The right thinks Obama is the antichrist, and the left thinks Trump is Hitler. Both ends of the political spectrum are extreme; history proves that. I know that somewhere in the middle isn't perfect, but it's the best we humans can do.

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01-02-2017, 08:38 PM
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(25-01-2017 08:52 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Link

Quote:Four more journalists have been charged with felonies after being arrested while covering the unrest around Donald Trump’s inauguration, meaning that at least six media workers are facing up to 10 years in prison and a $25,000 fine if convicted.

Quote:The National Lawyers’ Guild accused Washington DC’s metropolitan police department of having “indiscriminately targeted people for arrest en masse based on location alone” and said they unlawfully used teargas and other weapons.

Quote:None of the arrest reports for the six journalists makes any specific allegations about what any of them are supposed to have done wrong.

Long story short: During the violence at the inauguration, the police basically rounded up everyone in the vicinity and charged them en masse.

Because you know, those pesky investigations are so time consuming.

Practice those goosesteps children. You don't want to appear unpatriotic...

Justinian/Nika riots....

I do wonder if America has a Brutus???

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01-02-2017, 08:47 PM
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Quote:The right thinks Obama is the antichrist, and the left thinks Trump is Hitler. Both ends of the political spectrum are extreme; history proves that.

The antichrist is make believe. Hitler was real. Fighting against authoritarian rule isn't extreme.
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01-02-2017, 08:50 PM
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(01-02-2017 08:24 PM)BrianChariott Wrote:  Both ends of the political spectrum are extreme; history proves that. I know that somewhere in the middle isn't perfect, but it's the best we humans can do.


Sorry mate, but I think you need to read up a bit on world history.

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01-02-2017, 11:29 PM
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(01-02-2017 08:50 PM)Banjo Wrote:  
(01-02-2017 08:24 PM)BrianChariott Wrote:  Both ends of the political spectrum are extreme; history proves that. I know that somewhere in the middle isn't perfect, but it's the best we humans can do.


Sorry mate, but I think you need to read up a bit on world history.

On the far left there is communism, great on paper terrible in practice, Stalin proved that. On the far right there is fascism, Hitler, enough said. How is world history not on my side? Just rebutting my argument isn't enough to prove your point you have to put up a counterargument. Please do, I'd like to hear your perspective.

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02-02-2017, 02:36 AM (This post was last modified: 02-02-2017 03:05 AM by Szuchow.)
RE: Journalists Face Felony Charges in Mass Arrests during Inauguration
(01-02-2017 08:24 PM)BrianChariott Wrote:  
(01-02-2017 01:32 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  There can be no balance if one side is good at slinging shit as it has unfortunate habit of sticking.

Both sides sling shit. The right calls the left commies, and the left calls the right fascists. The right thinks Obama is the antichrist, and the left thinks Trump is Hitler. Both ends of the political spectrum are extreme; history proves that. I know that somewhere in the middle isn't perfect, but it's the best we humans can do.

From what little I know it is right which that made slinging shit into art. I easily could be wrong on this though. As for antichrist it only shows how much right is deluded - Obama could be decried as many existing unpleasant leftist figures - which would be counterfactual - yet they choose some boogieman tied to religious fairy tales.

Yes, both sides had their extremists (USSR, III Reich) but from my pov it is right which fucks up shit more in recent times. It is left which need to make comeback, left that is not afraid of taking on the church, free market idol and looming spectre of nationalism - at least this is how things look like in Poland. Given the resurgence of right in Europe not only there it seems.

(01-02-2017 11:29 PM)BrianChariott Wrote:  On the far left there is communism, great on paper terrible in practice, Stalin proved that. On the far right there is fascism, Hitler, enough said. How is world history not on my side? Just rebutting my argument isn't enough to prove your point you have to put up a counterargument. Please do, I'd like to hear your perspective.

You know that there was no communism in practice? Countries of Soviet bloc were in state of building communism and/or they achieved "really existing socialism" like USSR in Brezhnev times. Communism was something to be achieved in far future, or in case of Poland never as it stopped journey to it before even big brother did (1956). Also there is nothing great in communism even in theory - Marx vision was to replace "anarchy of market" with rational plan; there was no room for liberalism in his utopia. [Andrzej Walicki, From the Communist Project to the Neoliberal Utopia, Kraków 2013 edition].

Also I'm not sure about conflating fascism with nazism - latter was different in it's anti-semitic aspect, eugenics theme and specifically German volkisch theme.

About your argument - both sides had their extremes, but in no way you proved that somewhere in the middle is best position. You just asserted it.

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02-02-2017, 04:09 AM
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(01-02-2017 11:29 PM)BrianChariott Wrote:  
(01-02-2017 08:50 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Sorry mate, but I think you need to read up a bit on world history.

On the far left there is communism, great on paper terrible in practice, Stalin proved that. On the far right there is fascism, Hitler, enough said. How is world history not on my side? Just rebutting my argument isn't enough to prove your point you have to put up a counterargument. Please do, I'd like to hear your perspective.

Are you arguing that Trump is not that bad, or are you just being ridiculously pedantic over terms?

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02-02-2017, 04:21 AM
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(01-02-2017 11:29 PM)BrianChariott Wrote:  On the far left there is communism, great on paper terrible in practice, Stalin proved that. On the far right there is fascism, Hitler, enough said. How is world history not on my side? Just rebutting my argument isn't enough to prove your point you have to put up a counterargument. Please do, I'd like to hear your perspective.

We view history along differing time frames. I look at it by groups of 500 years. You are talking about one century.

To me that is nothing.

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02-02-2017, 01:52 PM
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Well, I asked for your perspectives, and you didn't disappoint. I'll respond to each one individually.

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