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26-03-2017, 08:33 PM (This post was last modified: 26-03-2017 08:37 PM by Thoreauvian.)
RE: Just throwing it out there...
(26-03-2017 02:31 PM)IgniteThought Wrote:  Thoughts?

Professionalism is a self-actualization cult for many people.

In our hyper-competitive world, where for every fun and creative job available there are literally thousands of people who want it, you have to practically be an obsessional who would sell his wife and kids to be successful. Anyone with more sense and better priorities wouldn't wish to sacrifice themselves or others for such limited goals.

I worked as a drafter, designer, and checker for all of my professional career. It was demanding and stressful work, but it was honest and I was content. I chose to pursue my own interests in my own time, so I didn't have to compromise those interests to any marketplace time-table or other people's priorities. That's the trade off.

One other thing: Don't make an idol out of personal freedom. Freedom is like money -- you can't take it with you, so spend it on something worthwhile.
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28-03-2017, 06:39 AM
RE: Just throwing it out there...
I notice that a lot of dreams die in the arts. People don't seem to realize how hypercompetitive they are.

I wanted to be a cinematographer when I was a teen. I used to make surprisingly good 8mm movies with my classmates. I was something of a local celeb for it.

But just before sending in my application to the Rhode Island School of Photography I realized I was going to be making boring industrial training films if I found work at all -- that everyone wants to be behind a camera and it was a good way to starve doing something you love. Today it's even worse -- the barriers to entry are relatively low. You no longer have to spend $100 per running minute for film stock, processing and internegatives and have thousands of dollars of projection and editing equipment; a couple of years ago someone actually made a commercially released movie using nothing but an iPhone -- the current models of which take surprisingly good 1080p widescreen videos.

The whole concept of work is to give you money to induce you to do something you'd rather not be doing. I was thinking about the sheer fun of experimenting, making fun stuff, when in fact, what people would be willing to pay me for -- sporadically -- was toothpaste commercials and 20 minutes how-to films for punch press operators. Things always look better in between your ears than they end up being in reality. Your mind leaves out all the hard parts, the tuition bills, the asshole professors and backstabbing classmates, the exploitive employers, the misguided death march projects.

Fortunately, I stumbled into software development and never looked back ... I love it so much I would almost do it for free. But you can't be sure that will happen to you. In my case, my professional life has kept me sane in the face of a totally insane personal life. Somehow my professional life has followed a path closer to, rather than farther from, the fantasy path I imagined at the beginning. But I'm aware that this was never a foregone conclusion. I'm simply lucky in this one way in life, in the face of spectacularly shitty luck in other ways. And even my success has also been a function of mental flexibility. If I had insisted on being a game developer or a systems architect, and been unwilling to pay my dues in the line-of-business development realm, I wouldn't have made it where I am. I spent years knocking out customized accounting modules in the pre-Internet days. I followed the money, not my heart. And I had fun anyway, even when building a fund accounting general ledger system.

My daughter had artistic fantasies, too, and imagined attending the Adler School and being a celebrated method actress. She's a nurse instead. And she's good at it.

Getting one's shit together is not easy but it's not rocket science either. It's one thing for my wife, who's nearing 60 years old, to not feel like going back to school for her real passion, but the OP is plenty young enough to still have possibilities open. It's a matter of figuring out what you actually want to do, balancing it with your needs, and then systematically working the problem.
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28-03-2017, 08:17 AM
RE: Just throwing it out there...
Stumbled across this quote by Campbell and thought of this thread - "You must give up the life you planned in order to have the life that is waiting for you.”

#sigh
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28-03-2017, 09:10 AM
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(28-03-2017 08:17 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Stumbled across this quote by Campbell and thought of this thread - "You must give up the life you planned in order to have the life that is waiting for you.”

That reminds me of this famous quote:

"Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans." - John Lennon

Cool
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01-04-2017, 12:38 PM
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For years I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life. While contemplating going into some electronics field whenever I got out of the AF it never happened. Rather I went to college expecting to teach and do research in math, well that became art which ended in a Ba with a minor in philosophy end of story.

I became an A mechanic (on cars) which I really liked but was unable to stand the thoughtlessness of the owners of what ever brand of car I was working on so when the opportunity arouse to go into the construction business (carpenter then contractor) which I loved to do, but things began to level off and jobs started to drop off. Went to work at a Big Box store in the building materials department, again a job I really liked. Unfortunately I have a troublesome back and between that and having to stand on concrete for 8 hours (breaks and lunch not included) caused me great foot pain then so on my 65th birthday I worked and then retired.

Then it was time to add an addition onto my house. When that was finished I sat around for 6 months until I started having cabin fever. I had always wanted to be on my own as an owner of a business like my father was or an independent contractor. My next job/business was as an independent contractor as a courier.

That lasted until 9/11 happened and things changed again; the courier business began to fall off so I wasn't getting enough work to keep me busy.

The next work I began was as an "Oversize Load" escort. That is working with trucks that hauled oversized loads such as large excavators, boats, cranes, bridge parts, some so heavy the trucks couldn't go over 25 or 30 MPH. Again this was my own business; I could accept or reject whatever load I wanted. I had a very good reputation so seldom out of work. I loved that work/business/occupation.

Travels included nearly all the lower 48 states and Canada. Now this was the work I loved more than any other I'd ever had. And here is the worst or best part, depending on how you look at it, I wished I'd found driving earlier in my life. At 65 I finally found my life's calling. It was an occupation we were meant for. It was a business/job/occupation I would have done for free (if of course I had been independently wealthy).

Somehow you will finally find a compatible career with your needs.

Today is the best day of my life and tomorrow will be even better.
Robert himself
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01-04-2017, 12:54 PM
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I'll be 60 in a couple months and still don't know what I want to be when I grow up.

Seriously...life seldom goes in a straight line. There are a lot interesting things along the twists and turns while adapting to changes along the way.

See here they are the bruises some were self-inflicted and some showed up along the way. - JF
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