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27-11-2012, 01:07 PM
RE: KC, you're a twit.
(27-11-2012 01:02 PM)Humakt Wrote:  
(27-11-2012 12:50 PM)Dom Wrote:  Freethought, in a nutshell, is:

"It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence."
Seems like your placing a limitation on free thought there, if your not free to believe what has insufficient evidence your no free. I think what your definition describes is an empiricist, but meh Smile


Well, I agree with the statement. Here is the wiki on freethought:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought

And - the thoughts are free. So, at any time, you can discover evidence that serves as a foundation for believing something.

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27-11-2012, 01:08 PM
RE: KC, you're a twit.
(26-11-2012 09:36 PM)lucradis Wrote:  
(26-11-2012 09:13 PM)Chas Wrote:  Maybe I'll start identifying as a Dennettist. Drinking Beverage

That comes a little too close to dentist for.my liking.
I've tried to convert people, but it's like pulling teeth.

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27-11-2012, 01:16 PM
RE: KC, you're a twit.
(27-11-2012 01:08 PM)Chas Wrote:  I've tried to convert people, but it's like pulling teeth.
For whom?

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27-11-2012, 01:48 PM
RE: KC, you're a twit.
(27-11-2012 01:07 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(27-11-2012 01:02 PM)Humakt Wrote:  Seems like your placing a limitation on free thought there, if your not free to believe what has insufficient evidence your no free. I think what your definition describes is an empiricist, but meh Smile


Well, I agree with the statement. Here is the wiki on freethought:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought

And - the thoughts are free. So, at any time, you can discover evidence that serves as a foundation for believing something.
Yeah, didn't mean it to sound like I was disagreeing with how you'd define it, just meant that the definition both your one and the wiki and the generally held one doesn't sound that free to me.

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28-11-2012, 06:42 AM
RE: KC, you're a twit.
I like James Randi's (http://www.randi.org/) use of the word "sceptic" in this context. A sceptic is someone who accepts knowledge provisionally in accordance with whether the evidence that accompanies the knowledge is consistent with the ordinary or extraordinary nature of the claim, and is prepared to let go of previously acquired knowledge if new knowledge comes accompanied by a sufficient weight of evidence.

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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