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19-02-2012, 05:55 PM
RE: Kidnapped for Christ
Quote:Because everyone has freedom of speech, even idiots. It's the price you pay for fairness and equality.

And those idiots elect our President!!

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19-02-2012, 07:13 PM
RE: Kidnapped for Christ
(19-02-2012 05:17 PM)Ben Wrote:  
(19-02-2012 01:48 PM)Thinking about Myths Wrote:  
(19-02-2012 08:29 AM)Ben Wrote:  
(19-02-2012 08:20 AM)Thinking about Myths Wrote:  It's for Geezus, so I guess it's 'k.

(seriously though, I think the parents are consenting, it's just the kids who aren't.)

Dammit, the like button is so close to the reply button. Dodgy

Anyway, plenty of parents abuse their children themselves. How is consenting to abuse by proxy any better?

I'll take that like, and raise you one.

The whole abuse issue i one thing, but these children are being sent from America all the way to D.R. to "cure" their homosexuality, atheism, drug use, or what have you. I think they treat it the same way as, say, a parent sending their overly aggressive child to a boot camp.

The situation is different if the child is so aggressive they pose a danger to people around them. That's not analogous to "treating" a child for atheism or homosexuality.
What I meant by that was they treat the child being sent to the camp as the parent/guardian consenting that their child be sent there. I'm trying to say in both cases, the child most likely doesn't want to go, but has no say in the matter.

Since the child does not want to go, it is technically kidnapping, which is what the whole point of what I meant. Even though things like this happen.

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I thought by saying "it" instead of "them", or "those attributes", I'd imply how the government looked at it. It was directed at Morondog. He said "No I meant the kidnapping? Surely the US govt isn't happy with citizens being abducted to another country?", and "Yeah but... this has *got* to be an infringement of children's rights surely?"

I didn't mean for it to come across like I said atheism or homosexuality "treatment" was the same as reforming an aggressive child. I think I'll try separating my sentences with the enter key next time. And possibly work on my quoting.

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19-02-2012, 07:17 PM (This post was last modified: 19-02-2012 07:24 PM by kim.)
RE: Kidnapped for Christ
It's all about control. The parents want control over the child and they know they only have this control legally until the child is 18. So, they immerse the vulnerable person(child) in a strictly controlled, highly regimented, isolated place and strip them of all identity. They want to replace their identity with a more acceptable identity - one they like, one they understand.

The person can not run away because chances are it's out in the middle of no where, in a country where they have no rights. I'm assuming they confiscate the person's passport so they have no legal leg to stand on, even if they do manage to escape to some place -where they may not be able to communicate easily. Any locals are probably advised that if some young person shows up, return will bring "reward"... so escape is a moot point. It's pretty much how people are brainwashed -Patty Hurst style.

It also kind of reminds me of rounding up and sending Jews and "undesirables" to the camps in the '40s; it was state sponsored and people couldn't escape. Pretty freaky that people will do this horrendous and traumatic thing to their own child.

The parents should be kidnapped and have the same thing done to them... they could be de-converted. People used to have their adult children kidnapped and deprogramed, if they felt they had been taken over by a cult(Moonies etc.,). Don't know what ever happened to that practice -they used to do it a lot in the '70s... probably the push of conformism during the Reagan years.

As always; it's all about control.
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19-02-2012, 09:29 PM
RE: Kidnapped for Christ
(19-02-2012 08:17 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(19-02-2012 08:13 AM)Starcrash Wrote:  Because everyone has freedom of speech, even idiots. It's the price you pay for fairness and equality.

No I meant the kidnapping? Surely the US govt isn't happy with citizens being abducted to another country?

Oh. I'm sorry. That was obvious, but I was totally oblivious.

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