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12-12-2012, 09:33 AM
RE: LGBT ramble
(11-12-2012 06:16 PM)Leela Wrote:  It is not something new on this planet and it is not limited to primates! A childhood friend of mine had a gay guinea pig!!


I don't know about wild animals, but pets tend to be quite indiscriminate. They will go for pheromones and reproduction every time from what I have seen ( a lot), but they don't care who they have sex with in the absence of pheromones.

Dogs mate indiscriminately when in the mood, so do cats, and small dogs will attempt to mate with cats.

Mostly I have seen males do this though, not females.

Personally, I slept with girls in my teens in boarding school. Everyone there did. Bored and curious I guess, lol. One of those girls I was friends with for decades after, and we saw each other once in a while and it always ended in sex. We lost track of each other eventually.

I am mostly attracted to males, but there is the occasional female I feel attracted to. So I guess I am predominantly straight. I have never based a relationship on gender, like Leela, it's the person that matters.

I do believe that sexuality is on a curve and that the minority is on either end of the curve. I think most people are just closed minded about their own sexuality and stick with what is acceptable to them and their peer group.

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12-12-2012, 01:54 PM
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(12-12-2012 07:53 AM)nach_in Wrote:  I like this acronym better: LGBTTIPQAH (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, Transvestite, Intersexual, Pansexual, Queer, Asexual and Heterosexual) Big Grin

I used to think a good compromise would be PNSS, Person of Non-Standard Sexuality, which would cover everyone who's not a garden-variety heterosexual and still be reasonably short--until I realized it looks like "penises" without the vowels. Weeping

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12-12-2012, 02:05 PM
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(12-12-2012 01:54 PM)cufflink Wrote:  
(12-12-2012 07:53 AM)nach_in Wrote:  I like this acronym better: LGBTTIPQAH (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, Transvestite, Intersexual, Pansexual, Queer, Asexual and Heterosexual) Big Grin

I used to think a good compromise would be PNSS, Person of Non-Standard Sexuality, which would cover everyone who's not a garden-variety heterosexual and still be reasonably short--until I realized it looks like "penises" without the vowels. Weeping

Oh, all the better, then. Big Grin

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12-12-2012, 02:12 PM
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(12-12-2012 02:05 PM)Percepticon Wrote:  
(12-12-2012 01:54 PM)cufflink Wrote:  I used to think a good compromise would be PNSS, Person of Non-Standard Sexuality, which would cover everyone who's not a garden-variety heterosexual and still be reasonably short--until I realized it looks like "penises" without the vowels. Weeping

Oh, all the better, then. Big Grin
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12-12-2012, 02:19 PM
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(12-12-2012 07:47 AM)TheBlackKnight Wrote:  Gay people arnt trannies most of the time.
If I may--and this is meant to be informative only as I suspect you didn't intend harm...the word "tranny" is considered pejorative to trans-folk. It would be akin to using "the N word" to describe black people. "She-male" and "he-she" are also derogatory/demeaning.



Also, "transgender" is an umbrella term used to describe people of various non-gender-conforming identities. So transsexual, transvestite, cross-dresser, gender-queer, androgenous, and intersex, while all different from one another, would all fall under the general umbrella "transgender."

I used to be part of a transgender forum called Susan's Place, and the site has tons of good info on it, and some wonderful people with courageous stories. I'd encourage anyone to peruse the sight who's really interested in knowing more about trans-people straight from the horse's mouth. It may seem foreign or uncomfortable to you, but just try to shut up and listen and soak in people's stories...

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12-12-2012, 03:19 PM
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(12-12-2012 07:38 AM)bemore Wrote:  I used to be very homophobic until I was about 18. I put it down to ignorance and also peer pressure.

We live and learn.

When I was a youngster I also remember everytime I heard something about HIV/AIDS then it would allways state that it was "rife" in the gay community. I wonder what they base that information on? I know that gay people can be promiscuous in the same way I know that straight people can be. Consider
This reminds me of when my gay cousin and his BF visited last month. Later on, everyone spoke about "blah blah as long as they're happy" but then added "...but that's just so risky.." suggesting that if you EVER have ANY gay sex, you will get AIDS. Apparently they don't realize heterosexuals also get AIDS, and it has fuckall to do with one's sexual orientation. Even if you're talking about anal sex and increased chance of rupturing a blood vessel and exchanging more fluids, you still can't get AIDS from your partner unless your partner has AIDS. I swear some people think it magically appears when people have "gay sex." Also, heterosexual people are quite capable of anal sex, too. It only requires a penis and an anus.
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I always heard that the difference between bi- and pansexual was that bisexuals were attracted to men and/or women, whereas pansexuals were potentially attracted to men, women, transpeople, neutrois, etc.

But in general, I get really pissed off when people make a big deal about who has what genitals, etc. That's none of their fucking business, IMO. I think the laws and discrimination mainly come down to many people hating anyone different from them, and since a statistically higher percentage of people are hetero, they think this somehow makes heterosexuality "correct" and anything else problematic, and comes down to tribalism, us vs. them, "these people are different from us, they must be wrong/inferior," and so on, caused by herd mentality and inability to think rationally.
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12-12-2012, 05:36 PM
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(12-12-2012 02:19 PM)Percepticon Wrote:  
(12-12-2012 07:47 AM)TheBlackKnight Wrote:  Gay people arnt trannies most of the time.
If I may--and this is meant to be informative only as I suspect you didn't intend harm...the word "tranny" is considered pejorative to trans-folk. It would be akin to using "the N word" to describe black people. "She-male" and "he-she" are also derogatory/demeaning.



Also, "transgender" is an umbrella term used to describe people of various non-gender-conforming identities. So transsexual, transvestite, cross-dresser, gender-queer, androgenous, and intersex, while all different from one another, would all fall under the general umbrella "transgender."

I used to be part of a transgender forum called Susan's Place, and the site has tons of good info on it, and some wonderful people with courageous stories. I'd encourage anyone to peruse the sight who's really interested in knowing more about trans-people straight from the horse's mouth. It may seem foreign or uncomfortable to you, but just try to shut up and listen and soak in people's stories...

~Valerie


So trannie is bad, but trans-folk is ok? I fail to see the difference or how trans-folk isnt insulting as well.
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12-12-2012, 07:22 PM
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(12-12-2012 05:36 PM)TheBlackKnight Wrote:  
(12-12-2012 02:19 PM)Percepticon Wrote:  If I may--and this is meant to be informative only as I suspect you didn't intend harm...the word "tranny" is considered pejorative to trans-folk. It would be akin to using "the N word" to describe black people. "She-male" and "he-she" are also derogatory/demeaning.



Also, "transgender" is an umbrella term used to describe people of various non-gender-conforming identities. So transsexual, transvestite, cross-dresser, gender-queer, androgenous, and intersex, while all different from one another, would all fall under the general umbrella "transgender."

I used to be part of a transgender forum called Susan's Place, and the site has tons of good info on it, and some wonderful people with courageous stories. I'd encourage anyone to peruse the sight who's really interested in knowing more about trans-people straight from the horse's mouth. It may seem foreign or uncomfortable to you, but just try to shut up and listen and soak in people's stories...

~Valerie


So trannie is bad, but trans-folk is ok? I fail to see the difference or how trans-folk isnt insulting as well.
I honestly can't imagine they really give a shit.
I imagine to be a tranny you would have to have VERY thick skin. I'm sure they are no doubt the most abused picked on people in society right now.

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13-12-2012, 05:28 AM
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@earmuffs, a good friend of mine is transgender and has kind of a thick skin but she would feel offended being called a "tranny" or a "he-she". It is basically like calling gay people "fags". If you have a bit of respect you are not doing that.

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13-12-2012, 06:37 AM
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I think a lot of the problem is irrational fear. I used to know someone that was gay. I was always respectful even though I am not into that kind of thing. The only problem I have is with trannies that try to and do trick an unsuspecting straight guy into bed. I have never been fooled by one that I know of, not that I ever jumped into bed before meeting my wife. I used to watch a lot of talk shows and Jerry Springer was one of them. One episode was about exactly that, surprise I'm a guy. Or the one where they had guess which one is the guy, where they had groups of women and you had to guess which ones were the guys and which ones were actually women. I have to say that it fooled me a few times. Honestly for some of them I just could not tell. If you are a guy into wearing womens clothes and like cock, then you need to be honest. Other than that, we are all human. Do what makes you happy unless it hurts someone else. The guy I knew that was gay by the way was the clerk at the local porn store I used to go to. Wife and I haven't had much money lately, so we haven't seen him in a while.
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