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04-06-2017, 08:00 PM
RE: LGBT (sub)section?
For the most part on this forum people are accepting of LGBTQ people. I have a hunch that if anyone decides to be an ass to anyone posting on these issues the backlash would be swift and ruthless.

There is a level of self moderation among a lot of the members here.

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04-06-2017, 08:03 PM
RE: LGBT (sub)section?
@earmuffs

Do you intend to explain your reasonning or simly restate it nauseam? If you don't want to detail your reason and provide clear arguments to defend your opinion, I' not forcing you to.

LGBTQ people don't have special needs that would warrant their own subforum indeed. We are not discussing about LGBTQ people needs either. We are discussing the possibility of chaning the forum's classification method to include a LGBTQ issue subforum where all threads regarding those issues (for example a thread about Chechenia killing over a 100 homosexuals for example) would all be grouped up. There are several reasons why you might think that this isn't a good idea. For example, it can make moderation more complicated. It might not fit with the current way threads are classified (they are classified by discipline so far). It might not have the popularity to be relevent on the long term, etc.

What I don't get is your specific argument against it and frankly, no offense, but you'r not that great at explaining it to morons like me. We are comming from two very different places (in both senses of the term) so I'll need more info. For now what I got from your argument is that making a LGBTQ issue subforum would be unfair to non-LGBTQ people because non-LGBTQ don't have a subforum dedicated to their issues. My only probem with that is that I don't think that sexualy normative people have issues caused by religious power and philosophy that LGBTQ people can't suffer from, but the opposite isn't true.

In my opinion, perhapse instead of calling it the LGBTQ subforum we could call it the sexuality issues subforum. It would be 90% LGBTQ issues since these are a hot potatoes today, but we could add issues linked to enforced religious gender roles, premarital sex, divorse and remarriage, sexual education, etc. We could even add ressources on the subect. What do you think of this proposal? For now, the intimacy and relationship is like a secluded part of the forum that visitors can't read and is a form specialised version of a sexuality subforum. I think this could satisfy everybody and allow for new discussions to be had.

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04-06-2017, 08:07 PM
RE: LGBT (sub)section?
(04-06-2017 08:03 PM)epronovost Wrote:  @earmuffs

Do you intend to explain your reasonning or simly restate it nauseam? If you don't want to detail your reason and provide clear arguments to defend your opinion, I' not forcing you to.

LGBTQ people don't have special needs that would warrant their own subforum indeed. We are not discussing about LGBTQ people needs either. We are discussing the possibility of chaning the forum's classification method to include a LGBTQ issue subforum where all threads regarding those issues (for example a thread about Chechenia killing over a 100 homosexuals for example) would all be grouped up. There are several reasons why you might think that this isn't a good idea. For example, it can make moderation more complicated. It might not fit with the current way threads are classified (they are classified by discipline so far). It might not have the popularity to be relevent on the long term, etc.

What I don't get is your specific argument against it and frankly, no offense, but you'r not that great at explaining it to morons like me. We are comming from two very different places (in both senses of the term) so I'll need more info. For now what I got from your argument is that making a LGBTQ issue subforum would be unfair to non-LGBTQ people because non-LGBTQ don't have a subforum dedicated to their issues. My only probem with that is that I don't think that sexualy normative people have issues caused by religious power and philosophy that LGBTQ people can't suffer from, but the opposite isn't true.

In my opinion, perhapse instead of calling it the LGBTQ subforum we could call it the sexuality issues subforum. It would be 90% LGBTQ issues since these are a hot potatoes today, but we could add issues linked to enforced religious gender roles, premarital sex, divorse and remarriage, sexual education, etc. We could even add ressources on the subect. What do you think of this proposal? For now, the intimacy and relationship is like a secluded part of the forum that visitors can't read and is a form specialised version of a sexuality subforum. I think this could satisfy everybody and allow for new discussions to be had.

Go reread the OP...it is a protected area that was proposed.

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04-06-2017, 08:35 PM
RE: LGBT (sub)section?
(04-06-2017 08:03 PM)epronovost Wrote:  @earmuffs

Do you intend to explain your reasonning or simly restate it nauseam? If you don't want to detail your reason and provide clear arguments to defend your opinion, I' not forcing you to.

LGBTQ people don't have special needs that would warrant their own subforum indeed. We are not discussing about LGBTQ people needs either. We are discussing the possibility of chaning the forum's classification method to include a LGBTQ issue subforum where all threads regarding those issues (for example a thread about Chechenia killing over a 100 homosexuals for example) would all be grouped up. There are several reasons why you might think that this isn't a good idea. For example, it can make moderation more complicated. It might not fit with the current way threads are classified (they are classified by discipline so far). It might not have the popularity to be relevent on the long term, etc.

What I don't get is your specific argument against it and frankly, no offense, but you'r not that great at explaining it to morons like me. We are comming from two very different places (in both senses of the term) so I'll need more info. For now what I got from your argument is that making a LGBTQ issue subforum would be unfair to non-LGBTQ people because non-LGBTQ don't have a subforum dedicated to their issues. My only probem with that is that I don't think that sexualy normative people have issues caused by religious power and philosophy that LGBTQ people can't suffer from, but the opposite isn't true.

In my opinion, perhapse instead of calling it the LGBTQ subforum we could call it the sexuality issues subforum. It would be 90% LGBTQ issues since these are a hot potatoes today, but we could add issues linked to enforced religious gender roles, premarital sex, divorse and remarriage, sexual education, etc. We could even add ressources on the subect. What do you think of this proposal? For now, the intimacy and relationship is like a secluded part of the forum that visitors can't read and is a form specialised version of a sexuality subforum. I think this could satisfy everybody and allow for new discussions to be had.

Why do I need to explain my points? I, and others have explained them plenty of times over. They don't need to be expanded upon they're very simple points.

- It would be alienating to others to create a LGBT subforum.
- Why does the LGBT get their own special subforum and not other groups?
- We're a forum about equal equality.
- Any issues LGBT people have they can post in the already existing subforums.
- And a minor point that we already have a lot of subforums and there's no guarantee a LGBT subforum would be widely used.

There's nothing to expand upon, those are the points. You either understand them or not, it's not my fault you can't understand them.

And yes I get what you're saying that there's a difference between LGBT people and LGBT issues except there's not because non-LGBT people don't have LGBT issues because they're not fucking LGBT. AND that doesn't take into account we already have a personal issues subforum where they can already post said issues.

Quote:In my opinion, perhapse instead of calling it the LGBTQ subforum we could call it the sexuality issues subforum.

We have the personal issues subforum already. Like what the fuck man comon this is getting ridiculous.

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05-06-2017, 01:37 AM
RE: LGBT (sub)section?
We really only need one point. Do we need it? No? Okay, next topic. Also, muffs is a homophobe.

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05-06-2017, 02:40 AM
RE: LGBT (sub)section?
(05-06-2017 01:37 AM)Dark Light Wrote:  We really only need one point. Do we need it? No? Okay, next topic. Also, muffs is a homophobe.

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05-06-2017, 03:24 AM
RE: LGBT (sub)section?
(05-06-2017 02:40 AM)Larai19 Wrote:  
(05-06-2017 01:37 AM)Dark Light Wrote:  We really only need one point. Do we need it? No? Okay, next topic. Also, muffs is a homophobe.

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05-06-2017, 06:53 PM
RE: LGBT (sub)section?
Quote:Also, muffs is a homophobe.

Well, to be fair gay people do piss me off a lot with this kinda shit. Always wanting special attention, always having a fucking cry about this person said this, this person said that.
Case in point I said the word 'tranny' in another thread and certain snowflake flipped her fucking lid and had a spaz attack.
It's like, you'd think from a bunch of people that can take a dick up the ass they'd be a little harder but nope, most, well.. the vocal minority more accurately, of them are special snowflakes drama queens who need to realize that there are other people on this planet besides the LGBT community.

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05-06-2017, 10:22 PM
RE: LGBT (sub)section?
(05-06-2017 06:53 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
Quote:Also, muffs is a homophobe.

Well, to be fair gay people do piss me off a lot with this kinda shit. Always wanting special attention, always having a fucking cry about this person said this, this person said that.
Case in point I said the word 'tranny' in another thread and certain snowflake flipped her fucking lid and had a spaz attack.
It's like, you'd think from a bunch of people that can take a dick up the ass they'd be a little harder but nope, most, well.. the vocal minority more accurately, of them are special snowflakes drama queens who need to realize that there are other people on this planet besides the LGBT community.
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14-06-2017, 07:43 AM
RE: LGBT (sub)section?
(05-06-2017 01:37 AM)Dark Light Wrote:  Also, muffs is a homophobe.

It's self-loathing. He's a 25 yo gay virgin who spends Saturday nights on the receiving side of a glory hole. He is a conflicted young cunt who doesn't understand why he likes sucking anonymous cocks so much. We should have a 25 yo gay virgin sub-forum where Gilgamesh can help walk him through this phase.

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