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21-10-2012, 11:21 AM
LaVeyan Satanism
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When I first introduced myself on this site, I mentioned I was a LaVeyan Satanist. A few people told me I should make a thread about it to expand on what it is. I was a little surprised honestly. I mean, TTA podcast did an entire episode on it and even had an interview with the high priest. Though I guess it was a bit lacking in the serious philosophy of Satanism. It was a bit of an overview. What you may have gotten out of it is that Satanism is not the stereotypical religion you might have thought it was. We don't worship Satan, we don't sacrifice animals etc.
However, Satanic philosophy goes much deeper than that. No, it isn't just "look out for yourself." Though that is a big part of it. Allow me to elaborate.

First, if you want explanations way better than mine, here are some sources:
The Church of Satan Web site
Philosophy of the Church of Satan - "Satanism as Weltanschauung" by Kevin Slaughter
The Satanic Bible by Anton Szandor LaVey
Only $7.99 plus S/H to sell your soul. Cheap huh? And you're allowed to have sex before marriage. Satan: 1, Jesus: 0.

Seriously though, let's talk philosophy.
LaVeyan Satanism has three special lists that do something of a summary of its philosophy. We have Nine Satanic Statements, Nine Satanic Sins and Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth.

The Nine Satanic Statements:
  1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!
  2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
  3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
  4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
  5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!
  6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires!*
  7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development," has become the most vicious animal of all!
  8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
  9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!

*A psychic vampire is an abstract term for someone who basically sucks the goodness from your life by constantly demanding favors without offering anything in return.

The Nine Satanic Sins:
  1. Stupidity
  2. Pretentiousness
  3. Solipsism
  4. Self-deceit
  5. Herd conformity
  6. Lack of perspective
  7. Forgetfulness of past orthodoxies
  8. Counterproductive pride
  9. Lack of aesthetics


The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth:
  1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
  2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
  3. When in another's lair, show them respect or else do not go there.
  4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat them cruelly and without mercy.
  5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
  6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and they cry out to be relieved.
  7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
  8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
  9. Do not harm little children.
  10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
  11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they do not stop, destroy them.


As you might have gathered from the Nine Satanic Statements, we use Satan as a symbol. We use his original name to represent "the adversary". As we are adversaries to spiritual religions. Satanism prides itself in being the first above ground religion to venerate the carnal. We reject all that is spiritual. All the "white-light" religion such as Christianity, Islam, Wicca etc. But let it be perfectly clear that, no matter what you've been told, we don't worship Satan. We believe that it is important for man to make himself his own god. Since man has made his own gods for so long, and they've all just been personifications of his own ego. Your ego is something to be venerated. So instead of making your ego into a separate entity, embrace it. When you become your own god, you become the most important person to please. Then you will go out of your way to make yourself happy. This doesn't mean you're the only person important to you. Of course you have care for those who are close to you. Like the fourth Satanic Statement, love to those who deserve it. You cannot love everyone. That's foolish. If your love is not discriminatory, then it is meaningless. Don't love your enemy, hate them. If you try to love your enemies, that puts you at their mercy.

Now, about the actual Church of Satan. First, I'm not a member yet. You cannot join unless you are at least of the age of eighteen, simply to protect the young from people who might try to manipulate them. Because I'm not a member, I cannot speak for The Church of Satan, only about it. I'm certainly not the representative here. The Church of Satan is not a physical building. It's an abstract organization of like minded people who associate with the religion. It is not necessary of Satanists to join the Church, as it costs money and some people just don't like being a part of such organizations. If you do join, however, it is kept completely confidential. It should come as no surprise that people such as teachers, politicians and doctors wouldn't want the news getting out that they're Satanists. The Church is merely a tool for people to connect with others who think more like them.

Ritual is another part of Satanism. It's also the most misunderstood part. Satanists see magic and ritual in a different way than most religions do. Magic is defined in The Satanic Bible as "The change in situations or events in accordance with one's will, which would, using normally accepted methods, be unchangeable." There are two forms of magic in Satanism: Lesser and Greater magic. Lesser magic is non-ritual. An example of lesser magic might be a woman using her sexual appeal to persuade a more weak-minded male into giving her a discount on a piece of jewelry. Greater magic is ritualistic. Rituals are often very theatrical and are original to every Satanist. The ritual is meant to be an empowering psychodrama. It's a time in which you disconnect yourself from your reasoning and intellectual skepticism and enter a fantastic realm where magic and demons are real, and you use them to your advantage. These are meant to relieve emotions that might be dragging you down or keeping you from your goals. The three most common rituals are lust, compassion and destruction rituals. If you're like me and just aren't very good with the ladies, and your sexual desires are getting in your way, you might do a lust ritual, which will most likely involve masturbation, to relieve these. In the ritual, you might "call upon" demons or spirits to infiltrate the mind of the person you desire to bring them to you. To make them feel relentlessly attracted to you. Of course, Satanists don't actually believe such demons exist. But that's the point of ritual. Some Satanists do believe, however, that if your will and emotions are powerful enough, your desire might be fulfilled. Hence the seventh Rule of the Earth. It isn't required of Satanists to believe or even do rituals, it's just there as an option. You might just do it because it's fun. There's nothing wrong with having some fun. Destruction rituals are especially fun. Some might craft dolls or an effigy of someone they hate and stick needles in it or smash it or burn it.

Now I'm going to go through some FAQ's. Things I've been asked after explaining these things or things I've seen asked.

Q: Why do you need a book to tell you how to live? Aren't you just as bad as the Christians?
A: Not exactly. You see, no Satanist needs The Satanic Bible or even Satanism for that matter. Anton LaVey has even said that they aren't looking for sheep who will conform to some other standard. If you conform yourself to Satanism, you're a herd conformist. Something frowned upon by Satanists.

Q: Why would you want to associate with Satan? Isn't he supposed to be a bad guy?
A: Yes, he is. Perhaps that's what's so appealing of him. One important thing to note about Satanists is that we aren't afraid of losing our "good-guy badges". What's a good-guy badge? Well, a good-guy badge is a figurative thing that represents your supposed "goodness" in modern society. If you're a Christian, you tend to automatically have a good-guy badge. When someone associates with Satanism, they forfeit their good-guy badge because they're looked upon as a danger.

Q: Is Satanism for everyone?
A: No. Just being an atheist doesn't make you a Satanist. If this way of life doesn't appeal to you, don't do it.

Q: Do you think it's best for the mainstream atheist community to distance itself from Satanism?
A: Probably. But if we're so willing to align with feminists, I can't see how Satanism is much different.

Q: How much does it cost to join?
A: $200 to join the Church of Satan. And that's the only payment you'll ever have to make.


So I hope I've covered enough. I know I'm not very good at writing, so if you have any questions, I'd be happy to try and answer them. Just remember, I can't speak on behalf of the Church of Satan.

Hail Satan.

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21-10-2012, 11:31 AM
RE: LaVeyan Satanism
(21-10-2012 11:21 AM)Nevermore Wrote:  When you become your own god, you become the most important person to please.

Speaking as my own personal Jesus, it's even more fundamental than that. It's about taking responsibility for everything and ceding control to no one.

(21-10-2012 11:21 AM)Nevermore Wrote:  The Nine Satanic Sins:
...
3. Solipsism
...

Yeah, that one's gonna be a deal breaker for me. Wink

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21-10-2012, 11:34 AM
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(21-10-2012 11:31 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(21-10-2012 11:21 AM)Nevermore Wrote:  When you become your own god, you become the most important person to please.

Speaking as my own personal Jesus, it's even more fundamental than that. It's about taking responsibility for everything and ceding control to no one.

(21-10-2012 11:21 AM)Nevermore Wrote:  The Nine Satanic Sins:
    ...
  1. Solipsism
    ...

Yeah, that one's gonna be a deal breaker for me. Wink

I agree. You do have to take blame for everything you do. And you have to find both forgiveness in yourself and whoever you might have harmed.

And, well, we don't need you anyway. Tongue

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21-10-2012, 11:59 AM (This post was last modified: 21-10-2012 12:09 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: LaVeyan Satanism
(21-10-2012 11:34 AM)Nevermore Wrote:  And, well, we don't need you anyway. Tongue

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I don’t want to belong to any club that will accept people like me as a member.

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I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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21-10-2012, 12:17 PM
RE: LaVeyan Satanism
Does it seem strange that you are required to be a solipsist and then ask for money?

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21-10-2012, 01:26 PM
RE: LaVeyan Satanism
I don't like the stuff about being cruel to people. Makes a fair amount of sense but... yeah, 9 statements, 9 sins, 11 rules... too much mission Big Grin At least you guys aren't evangelical - or are you?
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21-10-2012, 02:19 PM (This post was last modified: 21-10-2012 02:22 PM by Vosur.)
RE: LaVeyan Satanism
(21-10-2012 11:21 AM)Nevermore Wrote:  Only $7.99 plus S/H to sell your soul. Cheap huh? And you're allowed to have sex before marriage. Satan: 1, Jesus: 0.
I am allowed to keep my non-existing soul, I don't have to pay any money and I'm allowed to have sex before marriage.

Vosur: 1 | Satan: 0 | Jesus: 0

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21-10-2012, 02:22 PM
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(21-10-2012 02:19 PM)Vosur Wrote:  
(21-10-2012 11:21 AM)Nevermore Wrote:  Only $7.99 plus S/H to sell your soul. Cheap huh? And you're allowed to have sex before marriage. Satan: 1, Jesus: 0.
We can keep our non-existing soul

I sold mine ages ago to a friend for a beer Big Grin He later realised his error and tried to sell it back to me - I refused Tongue
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21-10-2012, 03:09 PM
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(21-10-2012 02:22 PM)morondog Wrote:  
(21-10-2012 02:19 PM)Vosur Wrote:  We can keep our non-existing soul

I sold mine ages ago to a friend for a beer Big Grin He later realised his error and tried to sell it back to me - I refused Tongue

No Returns! No Exceptions! Big Grin

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21-10-2012, 03:35 PM
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(21-10-2012 03:09 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(21-10-2012 02:22 PM)morondog Wrote:  I sold mine ages ago to a friend for a beer Big Grin He later realised his error and tried to sell it back to me - I refused Tongue

No Returns! No Exceptions! Big Grin

Lol. I've sold mine several times. Thumbsup Fools'll buy anything.

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