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10-08-2013, 10:25 AM
Lab cultured meat - ethical questions
For those who may not know please read:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/08/opinio...?hpt=hp_c5

Now there is talk that perhaps this breakthrough may lead to the end of factory farming and people that are vegan or vegitarian could now eat meat free of guilt regarding how farm animals are treated, and how it could help the environment. We can talk about those implications if you want.

But I want to see if I'm alone on a different possible use of this technology. We could now eat exotic animal meats that you would never otherwise be able to.

The cost of this technology will slowly come down over time, but even so it will be a long time before your $.99 beef burger will be grown right in you neighbourhood fast food restaurant.

But how many people do you think might pay a lot of money for a guilt free taste of a panda burger or breaded gorilla fingers... BBQ condor wings anyone? Do you feel that doing this would still be wrong?

It might even help cut down on the poaching of endangered species.

Any Thoughts?

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10-08-2013, 10:31 AM
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(10-08-2013 10:25 AM)unsapien Wrote:  For those who may not know please read:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/08/opinio...?hpt=hp_c5

Now there is talk that perhaps this breakthrough may lead to the end of factory farming and people that are vegan or vegitarian could now eat meat free of guilt regarding how farm animals are treated, and how it could help the environment. We can talk about those implications if you want.

But I want to see if I'm alone on a different possible use of this technology. We could now eat exotic animal meats that you would never otherwise be able to.

The cost of this technology will slowly come down over time, but even so it will be a long time before your $.99 beef burger will be grown right in you neighbourhood fast food restaurant.

But how many people do you think might pay a lot of money for a guilt free taste of a panda burger or breaded gorilla fingers... BBQ condor wings anyone? Do you feel that doing this would still be wrong?

It might even help cut down on the poaching of endangered species.

Any Thoughts?




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10-08-2013, 10:53 AM
RE: Lab cultured meat - ethical questions
Breaded gorilla fingers........now I'm hungry.

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10-08-2013, 11:11 AM
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I saw something on TV about that (and you all know it must be true then!) and from what I heard the stuff is dry and tough and tastes like nothing.

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10-08-2013, 11:17 AM
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And for those that need to eat the body & blood of their saviour, no more tastless wafers & grape juice!

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10-08-2013, 11:20 AM
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(10-08-2013 11:11 AM)Dom Wrote:  I saw something on TV about that (and you all know it must be true then!) and from what I heard the stuff is dry and tough and tastes like nothing.

Well it was their first attempt, so I think they only grew one type of cell, they would have to have some stem cells that produced some fat cells and other types of cells that would also be naturally occuring in the type of meat being made.

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10-08-2013, 11:31 AM
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Well, at the stage it is at, you can likely "doctor" it like any other food, grind it up, add in some olive oil and spices and juicy bits of veggie or whatever and go ahead and feed the hungry.

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10-08-2013, 11:44 AM
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I see 2 aspects to it: once it becomes cheaper than normal meat,it can be used to feed the poor,we wont have to farm cows and pigs anymore wich will keep down the methane production and land degradation.
The other aspect is that by creating meat in the lab thats lower in price than "normal" meat,the farmers,ect. Will lose their jobs.

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10-08-2013, 12:11 PM
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(10-08-2013 11:44 AM)Lightvader Wrote:  The other aspect is that by creating meat in the lab thats lower in price than "normal" meat,the farmers,ect. Will lose their jobs.

I'm not so sure, most of the farms that we get our food from now are pretty much corporate owned operations that are already more like mechanized factories as it is. They will simple "re-tool" and continue.

The smaller family owned farms will still have a growing market as organically grown food will become more "up-scale" product then it already is.

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10-08-2013, 12:24 PM
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The positive environmental impact alone would be worth it.

(10-08-2013 11:44 AM)Lightvader Wrote:  The other aspect is that by creating meat in the lab thats lower in price than "normal" meat,the farmers,ect. Will lose their jobs.

New technologies ALWAYS put people out of work. It's the unfortunate byproduct of progress.

Not too many people are bemoaning the loss of jobs the readily available automobile caused in the blacksmith trade anymore.
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