Poll: Should Prostitution be legalized
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Yes, with reasonable constraints and regulations
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01-12-2013, 04:06 PM
RE: Legalizing Prositution
The evidence the harm legalising prostitution causes is everywhere, if anyone was bothered to look.
I give up, you guys seem to be fine with with an explosion of coerced sex workers so a few of the existing ones will get dental plans, so be it. Its on your own concious to deal with that..

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01-12-2013, 04:08 PM
RE: Legalizing Prositution
(01-12-2013 03:40 PM)sporehux Wrote:  On the other hand legal brothels create incentives for organised crime to round up as many vulnerable women as possible to generate an income for themselves.

How is that different from Wallmart?

What I don't understand is why do you think that they are by default vulnerable women and not women who choose sex as their profession?


Don't you understand that illegality of prostitution is the thing that makes those women vulnerable?
If it were legal, they wouldn't be vulnerable, they would be employes (or business owners themselves ) like any other.

Organized crime doesn't get much into legal and regulated things, somebody mention Prohibition, and it's the same thing. Once drinking became legal, there was very little room for criminal activities left. Nobody is smuggling whiskey when they can import it legally.
The same would be with prostitution, you don't need pimps if you can call the cops, when you can advertise your services legally and openly , when you have legal and medical protection like for any other occupation.

With sex not being a taboo, and prostitution legal, soon you might have courses and schools for prostitutes, unions and every other thing you have with any other job.

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01-12-2013, 04:17 PM
RE: Legalizing Prositution
(01-12-2013 04:06 PM)sporehux Wrote:  The evidence the harm legalising prostitution causes is everywhere, if anyone was bothered to look.
I give up, you guys seem to be fine with with an explosion of coerced sex workers so a few of the existing ones will get dental plans, so be it. Its on your own concious to deal with that..

What you don't see is that the matter of legalization is not a matter of safety.

If things get worse with legalization, it's not because being a prostitute is emotionally scarring, it's because people take advantage of it. And people can take advantage of everything, everywhere in order to make money.

So should we make any activity that is usually associated with human exploitation illegal? Because seeing all my family and friends and their families here working their asses off and not getting paid for months or being paid almost nothing is what I would call "human exploitation".

Should we make working illegal because the government takes the money you deserve? Should we make prostitution illegal because some people take advantage of it? Or should we change the way things work and start with the core of the problem?

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01-12-2013, 04:18 PM
RE: Legalizing Prositution
(01-12-2013 04:08 PM)Slowminded Wrote:  
(01-12-2013 03:40 PM)sporehux Wrote:  On the other hand legal brothels create incentives for organised crime to round up as many vulnerable women as possible to generate an income for themselves.

How is that different from Wallmart?

What I don't understand is why do you think that they are by default vulnerable women and not women who choose sex as their profession?


Don't you understand that illegality of prostitution is the thing that makes those women vulnerable?
If it were legal, they wouldn't be vulnerable, they would be employes (or business owners themselves ) like any other.

Organized crime doesn't get much into legal and regulated things, somebody mention Prohibition, and it's the same thing. Once drinking became legal, there was very little room for criminal activities left. Nobody is smuggling whiskey when they can import it legally.
The same would be with prostitution, you don't need pimps if you can call the cops, when you can advertise your services legally and openly , when you have legal and medical protection like for any other occupation.

With sex not being a taboo, and prostitution legal, soon you might have courses and schools for prostitutes, unions and every other thing you have with any other job.

I wouldn't mind some sex-ed electives that were more instructional than abstinence only in style. Especially "doing" homework for said class.
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01-12-2013, 04:25 PM
RE: Legalizing Prositution
(01-12-2013 04:06 PM)sporehux Wrote:  The evidence the harm legalising prostitution causes is everywhere, if anyone was bothered to look.
I give up, you guys seem to be fine with with an explosion of coerced sex workers so a few of the existing ones will get dental plans, so be it. Its on your own concious to deal with that..

Where has anybody said they're fine with coerced workers??? You're making that up.

You also assume that if somebody doesn't want to haul off prostitutes and/or John's at gunpoint, then they must approve of prostitution. The reality is that they might be just as much against as you, and the only difference is they are also against violence. The way you keep combining the two suggests the concept of peaceful voluntary interactions without the threat of violence is so foreign and bizarre to you that cannot even comprehend the concept, and you just assume that if somebody isn't willing to use violence to stop something (drugs, prostitution, etc.) they MUST advocate it. Like it's not even a conceivable option to oppose something and not use violence to stop it.
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01-12-2013, 05:02 PM
RE: Legalizing Prositution
(01-12-2013 04:25 PM)frankksj Wrote:  
(01-12-2013 04:06 PM)sporehux Wrote:  The evidence the harm legalising prostitution causes is everywhere, if anyone was bothered to look.
I give up, you guys seem to be fine with with an explosion of coerced sex workers so a few of the existing ones will get dental plans, so be it. Its on your own concious to deal with that..

Where has anybody said they're fine with coerced workers??? You're making that up.

You also assume that if somebody doesn't want to haul off prostitutes and/or John's at gunpoint, then they must approve of prostitution. The reality is that they might be just as much against as you, and the only difference is they are also against violence. The way you keep combining the two suggests the concept of peaceful voluntary interactions without the threat of violence is so foreign and bizarre to you that cannot even comprehend the concept, and you just assume that if somebody isn't willing to use violence to stop something (drugs, prostitution, etc.) they MUST advocate it. Like it's not even a conceivable option to oppose something and not use violence to stop it.

Well I guess i am mad that society is ok with prostitution in any format, In my mind it should be treated the same as child prostitution, its on par with the physiological damage, valid or not that's how I see it.

Hypocritically i'm sort of still ok with porn (probably my next crusade)

In that frame of mind you can see how legalizing it seems insane to me.
Why legalize something that should be driven out like slavery was.

Illegal prostitution is limited, can be minimized, Legal prostitution is essentially unlimited and countless people will "give it a try" supply and demand will explode.

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01-12-2013, 05:02 PM
RE: Legalizing Prositution
(01-12-2013 04:18 PM)TheKetola Wrote:  
(01-12-2013 04:08 PM)Slowminded Wrote:  How is that different from Wallmart?

What I don't understand is why do you think that they are by default vulnerable women and not women who choose sex as their profession?


Don't you understand that illegality of prostitution is the thing that makes those women vulnerable?
If it were legal, they wouldn't be vulnerable, they would be employes (or business owners themselves ) like any other.

Organized crime doesn't get much into legal and regulated things, somebody mention Prohibition, and it's the same thing. Once drinking became legal, there was very little room for criminal activities left. Nobody is smuggling whiskey when they can import it legally.
The same would be with prostitution, you don't need pimps if you can call the cops, when you can advertise your services legally and openly , when you have legal and medical protection like for any other occupation.

With sex not being a taboo, and prostitution legal, soon you might have courses and schools for prostitutes, unions and every other thing you have with any other job.

I wouldn't mind some sex-ed electives that were more instructional than abstinence only in style. Especially "doing" homework for said class.

Or doing an oral presentation in class?

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01-12-2013, 05:07 PM
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Wow i'm surprised I the only one against legalization, can you make it a poll "TheKetola".

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01-12-2013, 05:08 PM
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(01-12-2013 05:02 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(01-12-2013 04:18 PM)TheKetola Wrote:  I wouldn't mind some sex-ed electives that were more instructional than abstinence only in style. Especially "doing" homework for said class.

Or doing an oral presentation in class?

Or have a friend practice their oral presentation on you? Shocking
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01-12-2013, 05:08 PM
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(01-12-2013 05:07 PM)sporehux Wrote:  Wow i'm surprised I the only one against legalization, can you make it a poll "TheKetola".

Hey hey, you're not alone Thumbsup
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