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04-05-2014, 03:39 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(04-05-2014 03:31 PM)Foxen Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 03:18 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  go fuck yourself Girlyman - you an idiot bitch.

Awww, he has a major crush on GirlyMan. Heart

I really do kinda sorta like him in a "no homo" sorta way. Thumbsup

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04-05-2014, 03:40 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(04-05-2014 03:39 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I really do kinda sorta like him in a "no homo" sorta way. Thumbsup

Nothing wrong with homo ways. Wink
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04-05-2014, 03:41 PM (This post was last modified: 04-05-2014 03:49 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(04-05-2014 03:35 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  
(27-04-2014 07:59 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Nah, no fucking rules. Tabula rasa. Freethinking and freewheeling and seeing what emerges.
Well, here we are.

Here we are. ... Shall we dance? .... when's the last time you bathed?

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04-05-2014, 04:03 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(04-05-2014 03:41 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 03:35 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  Well, here we are.
Here we are. ... Shall we dance? .... when's the last time you bathed?

I'm living on your dime - I take long hot showers twice a day, because usually I sit in my underwear jerking it to new porn and trolling the forums.

Humanism - ontological doctrine that posits that humans define reality
Theism - ontological doctrine that posits a supernatural entity creates and defines reality
Atheism - political doctrine opposed to theist doctrine in public policy
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04-05-2014, 08:39 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(04-05-2014 08:59 AM)TrainWreck Wrote:  No. You are making a couple of errors in transference of inference over different eras and cultures, straw man argument - you're just being pretentious ass instead of trying to understand the ontological error that I am describing.[/qutoe]

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.


Quote:First of all, it is doubtful that Buddha described himself as an atheist -
Doesn't matter. He was an atheist anyway.


[quote]I do not know, because I do not study religions like the average atheist.

The Buddha did not believe in gods.


Quote: Atheists in the modern world are probably the authority assigning the "Atheism" classification to the religion, and that is because they want to communicate with people who associate with the designation; where as the proper classification for the religion would fall under humanism.

LOL so now you are calling atheism a religion. Fucking idiot.


Quote:If you did not want to come across as a pretentious ass-bitch, you would have posed the question like so: if Buddhism is an atheist religion then was it a political movement?

It wasn't.


Quote:But no, you had to go through all the stupid shit of composing the narrative of the solitary and peaceful monk sitting in the monastery, and then the narrative about defeating theism - all straw man arguments - you lame pretentious ass-butch.

Oh, look -- more incoherent drivel. I'm shocked. Rolleyes

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04-05-2014, 08:46 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(04-05-2014 10:29 AM)TrainWreck Wrote:  More than likely, it was the Christians who classified Buddhism as an atheist religion, because it was/is convenient to describe it as such, because it is easier for the general population to understand.

Again you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

The Buddha specifically rejected claims the existence of creator gods. His own teachings were completely non-superstitions and secular. When he is described as discussing claims of gods, it is in the context of others' extant beliefs and/or as a teaching tool, leading his interlocutor away from such beliefs and toward his own teachings.

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04-05-2014, 08:50 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
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04-05-2014, 09:35 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(28-04-2014 11:08 AM)natachan Wrote:  1) atheism, the disbelief in god
2) humanism, a belief in the importance of human beings and their power to act towards the betterment of humanity
3) secularism, the value of separating church and state

seems about accurate to me. Then you go further down the line and hit theists.
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05-05-2014, 02:37 AM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(04-05-2014 09:35 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  
(28-04-2014 11:08 AM)natachan Wrote:  1) atheism, the disbelief in god
2) humanism, a belief in the importance of human beings and their power to act towards the betterment of humanity
3) secularism, the value of separating church and state

seems about accurate to me. Then you go further down the line and hit theists.
Pretty accurate except that atheism isn't disbelief in god but absence of belief in gods. Some atheists also disbelieve in gods.
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05-05-2014, 08:45 AM (This post was last modified: 05-05-2014 08:48 AM by TrainWreck.)
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(04-05-2014 01:50 PM)Charis Wrote:  My personal opinion is that people need more education, but how is this to be accomplished?

It is accomplished by a standardized knowledge classification system - I've done the thinking for you.

Humanism - ontological doctrine that posits that humans define reality
Theism - ontological doctrine that posits a supernatural entity creates and defines reality
Atheism - political doctrine opposed to theist doctrine in public policy
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