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28-04-2014, 12:41 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(28-04-2014 12:22 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  
(28-04-2014 12:19 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  So you are just as confident, and your solution is that the majority wins and defines reality???
Now you want to define REALITY??? Honey do you just grab a word out of a sentence and run full-hog with it? No wonder you get all caught up in semantics; not even of your own making. You can't seem to talk straight. Much less think straight.
We can make this a new thread - sweet heart. Where does it end?

Humanism - ontological doctrine that posits that humans define reality
Theism - ontological doctrine that posits a supernatural entity creates and defines reality
Atheism - political doctrine opposed to theist doctrine in public policy
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28-04-2014, 12:41 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(28-04-2014 12:33 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  I'm right, and you are all - wrong.


You didn't even read nor comment on my posts............. so............

yeah......... I call bullshit on everyone here is wrong BUT you. Eeeesh

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28-04-2014, 12:42 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(28-04-2014 12:41 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  
(28-04-2014 12:22 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  Now you want to define REALITY??? Honey do you just grab a word out of a sentence and run full-hog with it? No wonder you get all caught up in semantics; not even of your own making. You can't seem to talk straight. Much less think straight.
We can make this a new thread - sweet heart. Where does it end?

Well where does it end was Rather MY point. But I'm pretty sure what I've said has seemed to go right over your fucking head.

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28-04-2014, 12:45 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(28-04-2014 12:33 PM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  
Quote:a·the·ism
ˈāTHēˌizəm/
noun
1.
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
synonyms: nonbelief, disbelief, unbelief, irreligion, skepticism, doubt, agnosticism; More
Origin

late 16th century: from French athéisme, from Greek atheos, from a- ‘without’ + theos ‘god.’

The dictionary disagrees with you. Open a book sometime.
I have presented the argument using ontological reasoning to assert that humanism is the proper ontological "reciprocal" to theism, and that atheism is a political doctrine that opposes law based on theist religious doctrine. It is nothing to worry about, it is going to straighten out the problems that atheists have in their reasoning.

The only thing to worry about is if the Christians implement the corrections before atheists.

Humanism - ontological doctrine that posits that humans define reality
Theism - ontological doctrine that posits a supernatural entity creates and defines reality
Atheism - political doctrine opposed to theist doctrine in public policy
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28-04-2014, 12:49 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(28-04-2014 12:45 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  The only thing to worry about is if the Christians implement the corrections before atheists.

I beg to differ.
I'd say you have a couple of other things to worry about.

Namely reading comprehension and self-inflated ego issues.

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28-04-2014, 12:51 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(28-04-2014 12:41 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  
(28-04-2014 12:33 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  I'm right, and you are all - wrong.
You didn't even read nor comment on my posts............. so............ yeah......... I call bullshit on everyone here is wrong BUT you. Eeeesh
I read each of your comments and they seemed to be structured to describie me as a theist and obligated to define "god." I did that, and considered the post about reality to be the only one worthy of a response.

Humanism - ontological doctrine that posits that humans define reality
Theism - ontological doctrine that posits a supernatural entity creates and defines reality
Atheism - political doctrine opposed to theist doctrine in public policy
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28-04-2014, 12:53 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(28-04-2014 12:45 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  I have presented the argument using ontological reasoning to assert that humanism is the proper ontological "reciprocal" to theism, and that atheism is a political doctrine that opposes law based on theist religious doctrine. It is nothing to worry about, it is going to straighten out the problems that atheists have in their reasoning.

Am at work, posting from phone.

Having been following this thread through out shift I must admit to finding it hard to follow.

I noticed you've posted this twice now and having read it twice I must confess to still being at a loss to understand it.

Are you saying that "Atheists are political"?

Or are you saying "Atheists should become political"?

Or something else?

Much cheers to all.
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28-04-2014, 12:57 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
"I'm right, and you are all - wrong. How do you want to solve this disagreement? So far the only argument has been about the definition of "atheism," and I have presented the argument using ontological reasoning to assert that humanism is the proper ontological "reciprocal" to theism, and that atheism is a political doctrine that opposes law based on theist religious doctrine. It is nothing to worry about, it is going to straighten out the problems that atheists have in their reasoning."

Atheism is a lack of theistic belief. Nothing else. It has no political implications at all. Humanism is not inherently opposed to theism.
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28-04-2014, 12:58 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(28-04-2014 12:51 PM)TrainWreck Wrote:  
(28-04-2014 12:41 PM)WitchSabrina Wrote:  You didn't even read nor comment on my posts............. so............ yeah......... I call bullshit on everyone here is wrong BUT you. Eeeesh
I read each of your comments and they seemed to be structured to describie me as a theist and obligated to define "god." I did that, and considered the post about reality to be the only one worthy of a response.

Frodo, is that you?

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28-04-2014, 12:59 PM
RE: Let's define atheism, and other misnomers
(28-04-2014 12:32 PM)John Wrote:  There are these things called dictionaries, the compilers of which make their living by trying to come up with the appropriate answers (= the answer that most people would agree with). If the answers provided by them are not satisfactory, anybody is free to introduce their own definitions at the risk of being misunderstood, and this is one reason why the meaning of words (how most people would perceive it) changes over time. Semantics is little more but a trade-off between intelligibility and laziness, so having a debate about it seems rather pointless.
I am preparing the thesis/book concerning this, and I am probably going to introduce the atheist opposition that you are so proud of. How you point to dictionary definitions with out addressing the ontological arguments is like Christians pointing to Bible verses with out addressing your ontological arguments.

Humanism - ontological doctrine that posits that humans define reality
Theism - ontological doctrine that posits a supernatural entity creates and defines reality
Atheism - political doctrine opposed to theist doctrine in public policy
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