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18-05-2012, 06:58 PM
RE: Let's just say it : The Republicans are the problem.
That's a pretty narrow way of thinking.
Not only are both parties the problem. The entire voting setup is screwed up.
The all or nothing voting system is very flawed, as well as there's far too much corruption in the gov't for a simple "this person will fix everything"
The entire thing needs to be overhauled.

Is it possible that this could happen, yes. Though it is supremely unlikely with the way things are now in D.C.
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21-05-2012, 01:22 AM
RE: Let's just say it : The Republicans are the problem.
GT, why do you say you need to log on to read that, how is it that I just clicked on a link and read it? No logo was required... Try to clear you cache and temp folders, maybe then your browsers will start to act normally.

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21-05-2012, 01:46 AM
RE: Let's just say it : The Republicans are the problem.
They can't help it, they were born that way. Tongue

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21-05-2012, 06:57 PM
RE: Let's just say it : The Republicans are the problem.
So, the opinion of democrats is that the republicans are the problem. Shocking revelation I must say, but Fox News says that it's the democrats that are the problem.
There is no unbiased press anymore in the US. I trust no one at this point to deliver an unbiased opinion and I don't think they are even trying to hide their bias.
We have 8 states now that we would call "battle ground" states. We used to have 25, then 20, then 15 at this time in the election cycle. It only got down to 8 states or so weeks out from the election. At this rate we will have 2 states 2 weeks out that are still in play.
The estimate is that 12 million centrist voters are all that are in play for the presidential election. The election is so close that one little thing could cause the election for one side or the other. For example, if Europe blows up economically this summer Obama looses, or so the experts say.
The US population is on the move, literally moving. We are becoming split by ideology and both sides believe that they have the moral high ground. Texas and California are not going to want to be in the same country together soon.
I'm fairly sick of hearing "I'm leaving the country if {name of other candidate} is elected. What people are doing is moving to states that fit their ideology.
When voting districts are completely secure for one party this is when you hear the words, "no compromise".
I don't think this is a good thing for the country.

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22-05-2012, 11:28 PM
RE: Let's just say it : The Republicans are the problem.
People who blame the opposite party are the problem...Both Republicans and Democrats have seriously ruined this country. The past 12 years we have been haunted by 2 of the WORST presidents in U.S history. Both have entirely screwed up the economy and have slowly started taking away our freedom.
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25-05-2012, 12:20 PM
RE: Let's just say it : The Republicans are the problem.
As soon as corporations get their paws into politics...

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25-05-2012, 06:48 PM
RE: Let's just say it : The Republicans are the problem.
(22-05-2012 11:28 PM)Crunk Wrote:  People who blame the opposite party are the problem...Both Republicans and Democrats have seriously ruined this country. The past 12 years we have been haunted by 2 of the WORST presidents in U.S history. Both have entirely screwed up the economy and have slowly started taking away our freedom.
There's quite a bit of truth in this post. I hate the stupid (yes stupid) criticisms of Obama. The comparisons
Of him to Hitler and Stalin are ludicrous, over the top, and feed into bat-shit crazy GOP racism. The fact is, he's a browner shade of W. Obamacare versus W's prescription drug give away! These guys are one in the same!

The only reason I can figure that Republicans don't attack Obama on the areas he deserves to be attacked is that they simply want their turn on the Wall Street teat. I like Obama's "evolving" position on homosexuals - other than that, I see little daylight between him and Bush. The only reason I consider voting for him is to keep the theocracy out of the White House.

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17-06-2012, 12:08 PM
RE: Let's just say it : The Republicans are the problem.
(21-05-2012 06:57 PM)Thomas Wrote:  So, the opinion of democrats is that the republicans are the problem. Shocking revelation I must say, but Fox News says that it's the democrats that are the problem.
There is no unbiased press anymore in the US. I trust no one at this point to deliver an unbiased opinion and I don't think they are even trying to hide their bias.
We have 8 states now that we would call "battle ground" states. We used to have 25, then 20, then 15 at this time in the election cycle. It only got down to 8 states or so weeks out from the election. At this rate we will have 2 states 2 weeks out that are still in play.
The estimate is that 12 million centrist voters are all that are in play for the presidential election. The election is so close that one little thing could cause the election for one side or the other. For example, if Europe blows up economically this summer Obama looses, or so the experts say.
The US population is on the move, literally moving. We are becoming split by ideology and both sides believe that they have the moral high ground. Texas and California are not going to want to be in the same country together soon.
I'm fairly sick of hearing "I'm leaving the country if {name of other candidate} is elected. What people are doing is moving to states that fit their ideology.
When voting districts are completely secure for one party this is when you hear the words, "no compromise".
I don't think this is a good thing for the country.
I don't consider myself a Democrat or in any way loyal to any political party, but in recent years especially (dating back to the Reagan years) the Republican party has becoming increasingly radically right and increasingly unintelligent. That is not only my opinion, but the opinion of my God-fearing, religious, conservative father. What is going on is that the right has shifted many points to the right and thus to them is seems as if the left is shifting further left, while looking at a historical scale I wouldn't say that is true. For example, many Democrats now push for Cap and Trade laws as a means of combating climate change. Guess where that idea came from? Republicans. Twenty years ago. Now it's no small feat to find a Republican who even accepts the idea of AGW. I really don't like this idea of "both parties becoming polarized" because it's simply not true. The right is polarized and the left is not, by a worldwide scale or even a simple US scale. If anything the left has become more conservative since the great election of Dubya. Check out how many moderate Republicans still even exist in this world we live in.


(25-05-2012 06:48 PM)Seasbury Wrote:  
(22-05-2012 11:28 PM)Crunk Wrote:  People who blame the opposite party are the problem...Both Republicans and Democrats have seriously ruined this country. The past 12 years we have been haunted by 2 of the WORST presidents in U.S history. Both have entirely screwed up the economy and have slowly started taking away our freedom.
There's quite a bit of truth in this post. I hate the stupid (yes stupid) criticisms of Obama. The comparisons
Of him to Hitler and Stalin are ludicrous, over the top, and feed into bat-shit crazy GOP racism. The fact is, he's a browner shade of W. Obamacare versus W's prescription drug give away! These guys are one in the same!

The only reason I can figure that Republicans don't attack Obama on the areas he deserves to be attacked is that they simply want their turn on the Wall Street teat. I like Obama's "evolving" position on homosexuals - other than that, I see little daylight between him and Bush. The only reason I consider voting for him is to keep the theocracy out of the White House.
I will fully agree that Obama has disappointed his base in many ways since taking office, but comparing him to George W. Bush is not valid. Obviously he has not been as anti-war as he had promised, and he may have compromised too much on the healthcare bill, but George W. Bush is widely considered one of the worst presidents in US history people. While first term Obama hasn't been as full of 'Hope and Change' as expected it's just an apples to oranges comparison.

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