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14-01-2016, 05:22 AM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
Democrat.. Republican.

Labour.. conservative.

Like Yakherder said about the divide, I agree. Why can't there be something that represents everyones interests in an informed way instead of this polarization??

I'm torn. Socialism needs money, shit loads of it. If you want to look after people you need to fund it. Over here in the UK the middle class is being destroyed as Tax rates have come down for the richest whilst tax relief has been increased for the poorest. If America or any country increases tax rates for the poorest, then that will see liquidity dry up as it reduces the amount of money that is spent in the economy, as I believe the poorest generally don't save money and there are numerous articles that people can find which says that increasing amounts of people are living paycheck to paycheck and have little buffers to protect them should they lose their jobs/income. If you increase tax for the rich, then I imagine more tax avoidance will happen or businesses may potentially move their headquarters elsewhere.

What is Sanders (or anyone) gonna do about Americas massive amounts of debt that is just growing and growing at a ridiculous rate? That has doubled in size since 2008? How are you going to pay for socialism because I think in the long run it is unsustainable unless you have huge, unprecedented changes?

How can you be such a "rich" country and also be in so much debt? You will never ever pay it all off..... ever.

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14-01-2016, 05:50 AM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
(14-01-2016 05:22 AM)bemore Wrote:  Democrat.. Republican.

Labour.. conservative.

Like Yakherder said about the divide, I agree. Why can't there be something that represents everyones interests in an informed way instead of this polarization??

I'm torn. Socialism needs money, shit loads of it. If you want to look after people you need to fund it.

How can you be such a "rich" country and also be in so much debt? You will never ever pay it all off..... ever.

See my numbers quote above on what Americans pay for health. Australia has socialised health. Look at that rate above.

America spends astounding amounts. Why? To support a military empire.


List by the International Institute for Strategic Studies
World Military Balance 2015 (for 2014)[2] List by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
2015 Fact Sheet (for 2014)[1]
Rank Country Spending
($ Bn.) % of GDP Per capita ($)
— World total 1629 1.7 224
1 United States United States 581.0 3.0 1821
2 China China 129.4 1.2 95
3 Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia 80.8 10.7 2803
4 Russia Russia 70.0 3.7 488
5 United Kingdom United Kingdom 61.8 2.1 964
6 France France 53.1 1.8 804
7 Japan Japan 47.7 1.0 375
8 India India 45.2 2.2 35
9 Germany Germany 43.9 1.1 541
10 South Korea South Korea 34.4 2.4 668
11 Brazil Brazil 31.9 1.3 155
12 Italy Italy 24.3 1.1 400
13 Israel Israel 23.2 7.4 2755
14 Australia Australia 22.5 1.5 938
15 Iraq Iraq 18.9 8.5 525
— Rest 203.3
Rank Country Spending
($ Bn.) % of GDP
— World total 1,776.0 2.3
1 United States United States 610.0 3.5
2 China China[a] 216.0 2.1
3 Russia Russia[a] 84.5 4.5
4 Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia[b] 80.8 10.4
5 France France 62.3 2.2
6 United Kingdom United Kingdom 60.5 2.2
7 India India 50.0 2.4
8 Germany Germany[a] 46.5 1.2
9 Japan Japan 45.8 1.0
10 South Korea South Korea 36.7 2.6
11 Brazil Brazil 31.7 1.4
12 Italy Italy 30.9 1.5
13 Australia Australia 25.4 1.8
14 United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates[a] 22.8 5.1
15 Turkey Turkey 22.6 2.2


Perhaps you could curb this manic behavior?

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14-01-2016, 06:04 AM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
(14-01-2016 05:22 AM)bemore Wrote:  Like Yakherder said about the divide, I agree. Why can't there be something that represents everyones interests in an informed way instead of this polarization??

Because the Founding Fathers, while being a great many things, were not gifted statisticians who could have predicted the statistical inevitability of a polarizing two party system that arises from a first-past-the-post voting system combined with strategic voting (voting not for who you want the most, but rather against who you want the least).

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14-01-2016, 06:27 AM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
I was fully expecting a diatribe on the various merits of ...

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14-01-2016, 06:32 AM
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(14-01-2016 06:27 AM)DLJ Wrote:  I was fully expecting a diatribe on the various merits of ...

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No dude, it's about bolt cutters.

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14-01-2016, 06:37 AM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
(14-01-2016 06:32 AM)Banjo Wrote:  No dude, it's about bolt cutters.

Bolt Cutters sounds like a good name for a fictional anti-hero.

Bolt Cutters gets my vote.

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14-01-2016, 07:40 AM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-ber...proposals/

If bernie wins I expect him to be found dead after kicking himself to death. Either that or when the wheels eventually come off the economy he can be blamed partly.

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14-01-2016, 07:49 AM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
(14-01-2016 07:40 AM)bemore Wrote:  https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-ber...proposals/

If bernie wins I expect him to be found dead after kicking himself to death. Either that or when the wheels eventually come off the economy he can be blamed partly.

Your wheels already came off your economy and then you paid the banks back all the money they lost and many Americans lost their houses and their jobs. Your country is sadly going down the tubes,

I hope someone not of the patrician clans that seem to rule gets in instead. Otherwise your country will go bankrupt and the Cayman islands will be doing great.

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14-01-2016, 08:08 AM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
(14-01-2016 07:49 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(14-01-2016 07:40 AM)bemore Wrote:  https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-ber...proposals/

If bernie wins I expect him to be found dead after kicking himself to death. Either that or when the wheels eventually come off the economy he can be blamed partly.

Your wheels already came off your economy and then you paid the banks back all the money they lost and many Americans lost their houses and their jobs. Your country is sadly going down the tubes,

I hope someone not of the patrician clans that seem to rule gets in instead. Otherwise your country will go bankrupt and the Cayman islands will be doing great.

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14-01-2016, 08:23 AM
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Well they also suffered he GFC. Australia sailed through it untouched.

Also it's me at this end. The guy with the brain in dysfunction. To put it mildly. Smile

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