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14-01-2016, 05:17 PM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
(14-01-2016 09:26 AM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  
(14-01-2016 09:18 AM)yakherder Wrote:  You have absolutely no idea how this game works beyond your own biased view of the world.

First, you defend us from japan from what? I don't think anything. But america sure does help in raping and ruining shit.

Second, Japan needs to fix its problems with other asian countries.

Sorry man, but america has done nothing but waste japans money with these bases. America can be allies with japan, that is good, but it is better to move off to a country that needs them.


Actually according to Chalmers Johnson, it is the exessive amount of international US bases that is forcing America ever closer to bankruptcy. Everything is outsourced to Haliburton.

Here is a good interview where he explains this situation.




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15-01-2016, 10:14 AM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
(14-01-2016 05:17 PM)Banjo Wrote:  
(14-01-2016 09:26 AM)Metazoa Zeke Wrote:  First, you defend us from japan from what? I don't think anything. But america sure does help in raping and ruining shit.

Second, Japan needs to fix its problems with other asian countries.

Sorry man, but america has done nothing but waste japans money with these bases. America can be allies with japan, that is good, but it is better to move off to a country that needs them.


Actually according to Chalmers Johnson, it is the exessive amount of international US bases that is forcing America ever closer to bankruptcy. Everything is outsourced to Haliburton.

Here is a good interview where he explains this situation.




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15-01-2016, 06:20 PM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
(14-01-2016 04:06 PM)BryanS Wrote:  
(14-01-2016 03:42 PM)Imathinker Wrote:  Sanders vs. Trump would be a hella interesting election. I think if Trump does get the nomination, the specifically anti-Trump crowd will be out in force to prevent that dumbass getting elected. But the anti-socialism contingent might give Sanders a hard time as well...if the Dems just had a run of the mill, likable candidate, they might be better off. This does seem to be one of the strangest election cycles.

There's also the possibility of a third party candidate jumping into the ring if both Trump and Sanders are the two nominees for the major parties. Too many Americans find both Trump and Sanders unacceptable, and a third party challenge might find it possible to gain traction in that environment.

In a year of strange politics, we might find that for the first time in centuries, we will have an election that is not determined by the vote, but by the House of Representatives for the President, and by the Senate for the Vice President. An even more bizarre outcome would be if the Senate flips from GOP to Democratic control--we'd end up with a GOP president and Democratic Vice President. An even more bizarre outcome than that would be a 50/50 Senate, in which case Vice President Biden would end up casting the deciding vote and select his own successor to his office.

3rd party lol! LOL! LOL!!

This is 'Murica son. The country that parades itself around like it's the king of democracy whilst having the worst democracy in the at least the western world if not the whole world. No 3rd party will ever win a US election, especially while they're rocking the FPP system. They would sooner elect Trump.

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15-01-2016, 07:05 PM
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(15-01-2016 06:20 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(14-01-2016 04:06 PM)BryanS Wrote:  There's also the possibility of a third party candidate jumping into the ring if both Trump and Sanders are the two nominees for the major parties. Too many Americans find both Trump and Sanders unacceptable, and a third party challenge might find it possible to gain traction in that environment.

In a year of strange politics, we might find that for the first time in centuries, we will have an election that is not determined by the vote, but by the House of Representatives for the President, and by the Senate for the Vice President. An even more bizarre outcome would be if the Senate flips from GOP to Democratic control--we'd end up with a GOP president and Democratic Vice President. An even more bizarre outcome than that would be a 50/50 Senate, in which case Vice President Biden would end up casting the deciding vote and select his own successor to his office.

3rd party lol! LOL! LOL!!

This is 'Murica son. The country that parades itself around like it's the king of democracy whilst having the worst democracy in the at least the western world if not the whole world. No 3rd party will ever win a US election, especially while they're rocking the FPP system. They would sooner elect Trump.

Hey, there is successful greenparty winners at like.. local levels of environmental positions. I think there is couple state representatives somewhere of them too and libertarian party folks at times in some states. But that's it's reach.

Trump vs Bernie wouldn't possibly lead to any 3rd party candidate. Maybe someone like JEB tries to run independently but still publicly with tons of support from republicans with all the money that campaign has raised, but that's still unlikely. It wouldn't be any established Green, Libertarian, Justice, etc. Parties that grow from that scenario though.

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15-01-2016, 11:52 PM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
(15-01-2016 06:20 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  They would sooner elect Trump.

I hope we'd sooner elect that pile of cat barf atop his head before we elected him, but maybe that's just me.

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16-01-2016, 05:43 PM
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(15-01-2016 07:05 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  
(15-01-2016 06:20 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  3rd party lol! LOL! LOL!!

This is 'Murica son. The country that parades itself around like it's the king of democracy whilst having the worst democracy in the at least the western world if not the whole world. No 3rd party will ever win a US election, especially while they're rocking the FPP system. They would sooner elect Trump.

Hey, there is successful greenparty winners at like.. local levels of environmental positions. I think there is couple state representatives somewhere of them too and libertarian party folks at times in some states. But that's it's reach.

Trump vs Bernie wouldn't possibly lead to any 3rd party candidate. Maybe someone like JEB tries to run independently but still publicly with tons of support from republicans with all the money that campaign has raised, but that's still unlikely. It wouldn't be any established Green, Libertarian, Justice, etc. Parties that grow from that scenario though.

Maaaaaaaaaybe some sort of "Christian" "patriotic" party preaching about how Bernie or Trump will ruin America and go on and on about America this and America that (think Tea Party IIRC) will appeal to the retards and get like 5% of the vote. Maaaaybe. It sure as shit wont a greenie though. The majority of Americans believe global warming is a hoax created by scientists to generate funding...

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16-01-2016, 05:48 PM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
(14-01-2016 04:21 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(14-01-2016 04:15 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  Yabutt --- With Colonel Sanders it becomes a fast food franchise......

And a great one that told PETA to stuff it......

So Sanders is a bit like the Gracchi?

And we sadly know how that all ended. In dictatorship under Caesar followed by an Imperial dictatorship. The people lost work, became even more poor etc etc while the rich got richer.

Sounds familiar eh?

I see America, I see Rome. Were I American, I'd be very concerned.

A lot of us are extremely concerned.
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16-01-2016, 05:55 PM
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(16-01-2016 05:43 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(15-01-2016 07:05 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Hey, there is successful greenparty winners at like.. local levels of environmental positions. I think there is couple state representatives somewhere of them too and libertarian party folks at times in some states. But that's it's reach.

Trump vs Bernie wouldn't possibly lead to any 3rd party candidate. Maybe someone like JEB tries to run independently but still publicly with tons of support from republicans with all the money that campaign has raised, but that's still unlikely. It wouldn't be any established Green, Libertarian, Justice, etc. Parties that grow from that scenario though.

Maaaaaaaaaybe some sort of "Christian" "patriotic" party preaching about how Bernie or Trump will ruin America and go on and on about America this and America that (think Tea Party IIRC) will appeal to the retards and get like 5% of the vote. Maaaaybe. It sure as shit wont a greenie though. The majority of Americans believe global warming is a hoax created by scientists to generate funding...

Ted Cruz, the #2-3 GOP candidate, is a Tea Party guy who could easily switch to a third-party moron-focused run. Like Trump, he's a "populist" with an Ivy League degree. In Cruz's case, two Ivy League degrees, from Princeton and Harvard. There's enough bad feeling there that I wouldn't be surprised if Trump or Cruz (or any of several GOP candidates) sets up a third-party campaign on the fly.
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17-01-2016, 04:21 AM
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(16-01-2016 05:55 PM)julep Wrote:  
(16-01-2016 05:43 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  Maaaaaaaaaybe some sort of "Christian" "patriotic" party preaching about how Bernie or Trump will ruin America and go on and on about America this and America that (think Tea Party IIRC) will appeal to the retards and get like 5% of the vote. Maaaaybe. It sure as shit wont a greenie though. The majority of Americans believe global warming is a hoax created by scientists to generate funding...

Ted Cruz, the #2-3 GOP candidate, is a Tea Party guy who could easily switch to a third-party moron-focused run. Like Trump, he's a "populist" with an Ivy League degree. In Cruz's case, two Ivy League degrees, from Princeton and Harvard. There's enough bad feeling there that I wouldn't be surprised if Trump or Cruz (or any of several GOP candidates) sets up a third-party campaign on the fly.

Are Princeton and Harvard actually proud of these guys? Eish.

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17-01-2016, 07:09 AM
RE: Let's talk Sanders.
(16-01-2016 05:43 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(15-01-2016 07:05 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Hey, there is successful greenparty winners at like.. local levels of environmental positions. I think there is couple state representatives somewhere of them too and libertarian party folks at times in some states. But that's it's reach.

Trump vs Bernie wouldn't possibly lead to any 3rd party candidate. Maybe someone like JEB tries to run independently but still publicly with tons of support from republicans with all the money that campaign has raised, but that's still unlikely. It wouldn't be any established Green, Libertarian, Justice, etc. Parties that grow from that scenario though.

Maaaaaaaaaybe some sort of "Christian" "patriotic" party preaching about how Bernie or Trump will ruin America and go on and on about America this and America that (think Tea Party IIRC) will appeal to the retards and get like 5% of the vote. Maaaaybe. It sure as shit wont a greenie though. The majority of Americans believe global warming is a hoax created by scientists to generate funding...

Tell us why you think they push that hoax? They told us 40 years ago that the sea level would rise by 3 meters before the end of the 20th century, and when it didn't no apology nor even pretended apology. Like the people who think Jesus is coming on a particular day and when the day comes and goes they are silent. If it is science it should be able to make predictions that are based in fact, I thunk!
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