Libertarian Debate 2016
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01-06-2016, 05:42 PM
RE: Libertarian Debate 2016
(29-05-2016 10:08 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(29-05-2016 10:02 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Yeah, that's what I think too. But I'm not sure. Neither Johnson or Weld are assholes.

Well, it's not like those are mutually exclusive. But Libertarinan empathy, from what I've seen, doesn't seem to extend beyond 'me and mine'. They might care about their family, but there's no justification within their hard on for personal property rights that addresses poverty and homelessness outside of 'sucks to be them'.

I lean toward libertarianism. I give to charity. Even though the government takes my resources. Imagine what I could have done with the near $40 thousand they took last year.
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01-06-2016, 05:43 PM
RE: Libertarian Debate 2016
(29-05-2016 09:56 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Libertarianism: Empathy Need Not Apply

I'll pass, thanks.

Bull shit!
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01-06-2016, 05:50 PM
RE: Libertarian Debate 2016
Quote:Isn't there any sane person running for president?


Only as democrats.

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01-06-2016, 08:31 PM
RE: Libertarian Debate 2016
(01-06-2016 05:42 PM)Drunkin Druid Wrote:  
(29-05-2016 10:08 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Well, it's not like those are mutually exclusive. But Libertarinan empathy, from what I've seen, doesn't seem to extend beyond 'me and mine'. They might care about their family, but there's no justification within their hard on for personal property rights that addresses poverty and homelessness outside of 'sucks to be them'.

I lean toward libertarianism. I give to charity. Even though the government takes my resources. Imagine what I could have done with the near $40 thousand they took last year.

Libertarianism: Let's hope private charity fixes everything we refuse to do anything about.

Thanks, I'll pass.

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01-06-2016, 08:32 PM
RE: Libertarian Debate 2016
(01-06-2016 05:43 PM)Drunkin Druid Wrote:  
(29-05-2016 09:56 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Libertarianism: Empathy Need Not Apply

I'll pass, thanks.

Bull shit!

Libertarianism: Empathy is optional, and certainly not needed for our worship of personal property rights.

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01-06-2016, 09:36 PM
RE: Libertarian Debate 2016
(01-06-2016 08:32 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  ...
Libertarianism: Empathy is optional, and certainly not needed for our worship of personal property rights.

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The Murikan dream: Life liberty and the pursuit of property.

That Murikans have equality and that they are not dependent on each other ... yup, they're dreaming.

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01-06-2016, 09:44 PM
RE: Libertarian Debate 2016
(01-06-2016 09:36 PM)DLJ Wrote:  
(01-06-2016 08:32 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  ...
Libertarianism: Empathy is optional, and certainly not needed for our worship of personal property rights.

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The Murikan dream: Life liberty and the pursuit of property.

That Murikans have equality and that they are not dependent on each other ... yup, they're dreaming.

Big Grin

That quote can be weird, depending on how you want to define those words. I mean, a 'divine right' hereditary monarchy effectively posses everything within their territory. So is demanding personal rights or independence 'harming' the property of the sovereign monarch? Wink

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01-06-2016, 10:00 PM
RE: Libertarian Debate 2016
(01-06-2016 09:44 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(01-06-2016 09:36 PM)DLJ Wrote:  [Image: 431416-4c0c873fd4a0a859eac4ca5dcc5e6127.jpg]

The Murikan dream: Life liberty and the pursuit of property.

That Murikans have equality and that they are not dependent on each other ... yup, they're dreaming.

Big Grin

That quote can be weird, depending on how you want to define those words. I mean, a 'divine right' hereditary monarchy effectively possess everything within their territory. So is demanding personal rights or independence 'harming' the property of the sovereign monarch? Wink

Well, given what happened in England and then in the US following Locke's writings ... I'd say yes! And I'd add: Bravo!

Even though he was wrong about the tabula rasa, he did set the ball rolling for uncoupling of church and crown and kicking that divine right of kings nonsense into touch.

Good job, Locke.

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01-06-2016, 11:07 PM
RE: Libertarian Debate 2016
(01-06-2016 08:31 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(01-06-2016 05:42 PM)Drunkin Druid Wrote:  I lean toward libertarianism. I give to charity. Even though the government takes my resources. Imagine what I could have done with the near $40 thousand they took last year.

Libertarianism: Let's hope private charity fixes everything we refuse to do anything about.

Thanks, I'll pass.
This really reflects what it is that's bothersome by many types of libertarians because Ron Paul for example when actually prodded or asked isn't advocating guys dying on the street like a fan of him at a debate may want.

He really does envision just larger even more significant church control over medical and charitable services.

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02-06-2016, 02:54 AM
RE: Libertarian Debate 2016
(01-06-2016 11:07 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  He really does envision just larger even more significant church control over medical and charitable services.

I'm honestly not sure if that's more or less terrifying than regular old poverty.

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