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15-10-2013, 11:05 AM
List of sciences that support evolution
need some meat for my next battle with my YE creationist friend.

Along with Darwin's biology/natural selection stuff, does any one have a full list of supporting sciences, for either > 6000 year existence or evolution or both. with examples that are child friendly (examples of a scientific watchtower i've seen before are snobby intellectual drawl) .

example would be,
Geology = tidal layers, continental drift etc
Astrology = rewind expansion time to singularity = x years
Genealogy = family tree traits etc.

Hopefully in a flyer format Smile

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15-10-2013, 11:16 AM
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What i hope to get through to him is that its not just "carbon dating" that his preacher has claimed to be a science dogma fraud conspiracy, that shows < 6000 year universe is wrong. .

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15-10-2013, 11:31 AM
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I'm not all that informed about other sciences, but I know that astrology is the thing with the zodiac signs and other woo, you mean astronomy (the actual science).

Oh, btw, don't mix biological evolution with other types of natural processes like the universe expansion and other stuff, he'll lure you into some knowledge gap and bury you with his BS

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15-10-2013, 11:37 AM (This post was last modified: 15-10-2013 11:40 AM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: List of sciences that support evolution
(15-10-2013 11:16 AM)sporehux Wrote:  What i hope to get through to him is that its not just "carbon dating" that his preacher has claimed to be a science dogma fraud conspiracy, that shows < 6000 year universe is wrong. .

Lots of stuff posted here :
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...ght?page=9
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...ce-Library

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15-10-2013, 11:53 AM
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Platetectonics is the defacto way to prove that creationists young earth is total bullshit. Let him squirm because it is actually observable. The continents drift something like 100mm per year and if you were to trace that back the earth would be well over 10000 years old when they were together. Of course you can point and laugh and say he believes in the equivalent of zeus. Might not be the most productive approach but fun. (Say have you ever wondered why all the depictions of god look like zeus?)

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15-10-2013, 12:08 PM
RE: List of sciences that support evolution
Here's a list of sciences you would need to ignore to believe in Young Earth Creationism.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Branches_of...reationism
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15-10-2013, 12:21 PM
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(15-10-2013 12:08 PM)DemonicLemon Wrote:  Here's a list of sciences you would need to ignore to believe in Young Earth Creationism.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Branches_of...reationism

Except for the "astronomy-speed-of-light" thing is of the devil.
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15-10-2013, 01:12 PM
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(15-10-2013 12:08 PM)DemonicLemon Wrote:  Here's a list of sciences you would need to ignore to believe in Young Earth Creationism.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Branches_of...reationism

You beat me by an hour! I was going to post this exact same link.

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15-10-2013, 06:38 PM
RE: List of sciences that support evolution
Start with these

1. Aerodynamics: the study of the motion of gas on objects and the forces created
2. Anatomy: the study of the structure and organization of living things
3. Anthropology: the study of human cultures both past and present
4. Archaeology: the study of the material remains of cultures
5. Astronomy: the study of celestial objects in the universe
6. Astrophysics: the study of the physics of the universe
7. Bacteriology: the study of bacteria in relation to disease
8. Biochemistry: the study of the organic chemistry of compounds and processes occurring in organisms
9. Biophysics: the application of theories and methods of the physical sciences to questions of biology
10. Biology: the science that studies living organisms
11. Botany: the scientific study of plant life
12. Chemical Engineering: the application of science, mathematics, and economics to the process of converting raw materials or chemicals into more useful or valuable forms.
13. Chemistry: the science of matter and its interactions with energy and itself
14. Climatology: the study of climates and investigations of its phenomena and causes
15. Computer Science: the systematic study of computing systems and computation
16. Ecology: the study of how organisms interact with each other and their environment.
17. Electronics: science and technology of electronic phenomena
18. Engineering: the practical application of science to commerce or industry
19. Entomology: the study of insects
20. Environmental Science: the science of the interactions between the physical, chemical, and biological components of the environment
21. Forestry: the science of studying and managing forests and plantations, and related natural resources
22. Genetics: the science of genes, heredity, and the variation of organisms
23. Geology: the science of the Earth, its structure, and history
24. Marine Biology: the study of animal and plant life within saltwater ecosystems
25. Mathematics: a science dealing with the logic of quantity and shape and arrangement
26. Medicine: the science concerned with maintaining health and restoring it by treating disease
27. Meteorology: study of the atmosphere that focuses on weather processes and forecasting
28. Microbiology: the study of microorganisms, including viruses, prokaryotes and simple eukaryotes
29. Mineralogy: the study of the chemistry, crystal structure, and physical (including optical) properties of minerals
30. Molecular Biology: the study of biology at a molecular level
31. Nuclear Physics: the branch of physics concerned with the nucleus of the atom
Neurology: the branch of medicine dealing with the nervous system and its disorders
32. Oceanography: study of the earth's oceans and their interlinked ecosystems and chemical and physical processes
33. Organic Chemistry: the branch of chemistry dedicated to the study of the structures, synthesis, and reactions of carbon-containing compounds
34. Ornithology: the study of birds
35. Paleontology: the study of life-forms existing in former geological time periods
36. Petrology: the geological and chemical study of rocks
37. Physics: the study of the behavior and properties of matter
38. Physiology: the study of the mechanical, physical, and biochemical functions of living organisms
39. Radiology: the branch of medicine dealing with the applications of radiant energy, including x-rays and radioisotopes
40. Seismology: the study of earthquakes and the movement of waves through the Earth
41. Taxonomy: the science of classification of animals and plants
42. Thermodynamics: the physics of energy, heat, work, entropy and the spontaneity of processes
43. Zoology: the study of animals

Some will have nothing to do with evolution, but I'm willing to bet that most of them will tie into evolution and or the time scale that the earth exists on.

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15-10-2013, 08:01 PM
RE: List of sciences that support evolution
(15-10-2013 06:38 PM)Rahn127 Wrote:  Start with these

1. Aerodynamics: the study of the motion of gas on objects and the forces created
2. Anatomy: the study of the structure and organization of living things
3. Anthropology: the study of human cultures both past and present
4. Archaeology: the study of the material remains of cultures
5. Astronomy: the study of celestial objects in the universe
6. Astrophysics: the study of the physics of the universe
7. Bacteriology: the study of bacteria in relation to disease
8. Biochemistry: the study of the organic chemistry of compounds and processes occurring in organisms
9. Biophysics: the application of theories and methods of the physical sciences to questions of biology
10. Biology: the science that studies living organisms
11. Botany: the scientific study of plant life
12. Chemical Engineering: the application of science, mathematics, and economics to the process of converting raw materials or chemicals into more useful or valuable forms.
13. Chemistry: the science of matter and its interactions with energy and itself
14. Climatology: the study of climates and investigations of its phenomena and causes
15. Computer Science: the systematic study of computing systems and computation
16. Ecology: the study of how organisms interact with each other and their environment.
17. Electronics: science and technology of electronic phenomena
18. Engineering: the practical application of science to commerce or industry
19. Entomology: the study of insects
20. Environmental Science: the science of the interactions between the physical, chemical, and biological components of the environment
21. Forestry: the science of studying and managing forests and plantations, and related natural resources
22. Genetics: the science of genes, heredity, and the variation of organisms
23. Geology: the science of the Earth, its structure, and history
24. Marine Biology: the study of animal and plant life within saltwater ecosystems
25. Mathematics: a science dealing with the logic of quantity and shape and arrangement
26. Medicine: the science concerned with maintaining health and restoring it by treating disease
27. Meteorology: study of the atmosphere that focuses on weather processes and forecasting
28. Microbiology: the study of microorganisms, including viruses, prokaryotes and simple eukaryotes
29. Mineralogy: the study of the chemistry, crystal structure, and physical (including optical) properties of minerals
30. Molecular Biology: the study of biology at a molecular level
31. Nuclear Physics: the branch of physics concerned with the nucleus of the atom
Neurology: the branch of medicine dealing with the nervous system and its disorders
32. Oceanography: study of the earth's oceans and their interlinked ecosystems and chemical and physical processes
33. Organic Chemistry: the branch of chemistry dedicated to the study of the structures, synthesis, and reactions of carbon-containing compounds
34. Ornithology: the study of birds
35. Paleontology: the study of life-forms existing in former geological time periods
36. Petrology: the geological and chemical study of rocks
37. Physics: the study of the behavior and properties of matter
38. Physiology: the study of the mechanical, physical, and biochemical functions of living organisms
39. Radiology: the branch of medicine dealing with the applications of radiant energy, including x-rays and radioisotopes
40. Seismology: the study of earthquakes and the movement of waves through the Earth
41. Taxonomy: the science of classification of animals and plants
42. Thermodynamics: the physics of energy, heat, work, entropy and the spontaneity of processes
43. Zoology: the study of animals

Some will have nothing to do with evolution, but I'm willing to bet that most of them will tie into evolution and or the time scale that the earth exists on.

Thanks to those above and this one, I think even a creationist would know that most of the scientist and educated people in all the above fields would agree with the case for evolution. Although I think he (YEC) will claim that all of them have been brainwashed with evolution dogma.

Will let you know how I go , hoping for him to at least admit evolution has a 0.1% chance of being correct, unlikely but its a goal neither the less.

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