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15-01-2017, 03:14 PM
RE: Live rally to save healthcare
(15-01-2017 03:04 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(15-01-2017 02:54 PM)pablo Wrote:  Not according to the most recent popular vote.

We don't use a popular vote. It's meaningless.

But as I've pointed out before. Millions of republicans in California don't vote in presidential elections unless there's a major senate race on the ballot, like 2004 when the margin of victory in California was 1 million votes instead of 5 million votes. They know a republican won't win the California electoral votes, and with two democrats on the ballot for senate and no republicans, they stayed home. If Trump pulled as many votes as Bush in California with a republican senator on the ballot the popular vote would have been close to tied.

But the presidency is only one race. If you look at every election over the last 6 years, democrats have been practically eliminated from power except in 7 states.

If the dems have been practically eliminated from power over the last 6 years, why is everything their fault?
I think the pubes are masterful obstructionists and con artists.
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15-01-2017, 03:20 PM
RE: Live rally to save healthcare
(15-01-2017 03:14 PM)pablo Wrote:  
(15-01-2017 03:04 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  We don't use a popular vote. It's meaningless.

But as I've pointed out before. Millions of republicans in California don't vote in presidential elections unless there's a major senate race on the ballot, like 2004 when the margin of victory in California was 1 million votes instead of 5 million votes. They know a republican won't win the California electoral votes, and with two democrats on the ballot for senate and no republicans, they stayed home. If Trump pulled as many votes as Bush in California with a republican senator on the ballot the popular vote would have been close to tied.

But the presidency is only one race. If you look at every election over the last 6 years, democrats have been practically eliminated from power except in 7 states.

If the dems have been practically eliminated from power over the last 6 years, why is everything their fault?
I think the pubes are masterful obstructionists and con artists.

ObamaCare is their mess. Republicans can only now begin to fix it because Obama's veto pen is out of ink as of 1/19/2017.

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15-01-2017, 03:30 PM
RE: Live rally to save healthcare
bullshit. the ACA was trimmed and cobbled up by the repubs till it lost too much. It was the best that could get by the house and senate, and that wasn't good enough.
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15-01-2017, 03:46 PM
RE: Live rally to save healthcare
(15-01-2017 03:30 PM)skyking Wrote:  bullshit. the ACA was trimmed and cobbled up by the repubs till it lost too much. It was the best that could get by the house and senate, and that wasn't good enough.

Lol what?

The ACA had 40 cosponsors. Only 3 were republican. And they dropped out after the mandate was added. 37 democrat cosponsors plus democrat Charlie Rangel did this bill. Not 1 republican in Congress voted yes.

The democrats had a majority in the house and senate, plus a democrat president.

They could have passed anything they wanted. To say this was the best they could do to get it through congress (when no republican voted for it anyway) is completely incorrect.

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15-01-2017, 03:56 PM
RE: Live rally to save healthcare
(15-01-2017 02:19 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Welcome to the age of patriotism, nationalism, and anti-liberalism.

USA: Patriotism? Check. Nationalism? Check. Anti-liberalism? Check.
III Reich: Patriotism? Check. Nationalism? Check. Anti-liberalism? Check. Hope similarities will end at this.

You know what other countries were anti-liberal? Soviet Union. Mao China. Fascist Italy. Good company to be found in.

Quote:We are going to make America great again.

It's good that your president isn't failed painter then.

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15-01-2017, 04:01 PM
RE: Live rally to save healthcare
(15-01-2017 03:56 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(15-01-2017 02:19 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Welcome to the age of patriotism, nationalism, and anti-liberalism.

USA: Patriotism? Check. Nationalism? Check. Anti-liberalism? Check.
III Reich: Patriotism? Check. Nationalism? Check. Anti-liberalism? Check. Hope similarities will end at this.

You know what other countries were anti-liberal? Soviet Union. Mao China. Fascist Italy. Good company to be found in.

Quote:We are going to make America great again.

It's good that your president isn't failed painter then.

Liberalism = socialism/communism

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15-01-2017, 04:07 PM
RE: Live rally to save healthcare
(15-01-2017 04:01 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(15-01-2017 03:56 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  USA: Patriotism? Check. Nationalism? Check. Anti-liberalism? Check.
III Reich: Patriotism? Check. Nationalism? Check. Anti-liberalism? Check. Hope similarities will end at this.

You know what other countries were anti-liberal? Soviet Union. Mao China. Fascist Italy. Good company to be found in.


It's good that your president isn't failed painter then.

Liberalism = socialism/communism

It still leave patriotism and nationalism, both dangerous things. Also if liberalism = socialism/communism then paralel to III Reich still exist as it was anti communist. Again I hope this is where similarities will end.

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15-01-2017, 04:38 PM
RE: Live rally to save healthcare
(15-01-2017 02:19 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Welcome to the age of patriotism, nationalism, and anti-liberalism. We are going to rid the schools of common core. Stop force feeding our kids liberal nonsense so they can stop being whiny safe space needing pansy asses.

We are going to make America great again.

Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious and the last refuge of a scoudrel according to Oscar Wilde and Samuel Johnson. Considering human history, those two saying happens to be right more often than not.

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15-01-2017, 05:01 PM
RE: Live rally to save healthcare
(15-01-2017 04:01 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(15-01-2017 03:56 PM)Szuchow Wrote:  USA: Patriotism? Check. Nationalism? Check. Anti-liberalism? Check.
III Reich: Patriotism? Check. Nationalism? Check. Anti-liberalism? Check. Hope similarities will end at this.

You know what other countries were anti-liberal? Soviet Union. Mao China. Fascist Italy. Good company to be found in.


It's good that your president isn't failed painter then.

Liberalism = socialism/communism

lolwut?

Firstly, socialism =/= communism

Secondly, saying liberalism is equal to communism is like saying conservatism = fascism.

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15-01-2017, 05:54 PM
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(15-01-2017 05:01 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  
(15-01-2017 04:01 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Liberalism = socialism/communism

lolwut?

Firstly, socialism =/= communism

Secondly, saying liberalism is equal to communism is like saying conservatism = fascism.

Not far off the mark.

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