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10-03-2017, 09:24 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
The wise builder did what god said and the foolish builder didn't. Make sence now.
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10-03-2017, 09:26 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
(10-03-2017 07:45 PM)socialistview Wrote:  proverbs and eclesiates is logic

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10-03-2017, 09:29 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
(10-03-2017 09:24 PM)socialistview Wrote:  The wise builder did what god said and the foolish builder didn't. Make sence now.

Bob The Builder>god. That makes "scents!"




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10-03-2017, 09:34 PM (This post was last modified: 10-03-2017 09:53 PM by true scotsman.)
RE: Logic vs. Theism
(10-03-2017 08:57 PM)socialistview Wrote:  The foolish builder and the wise builder. Jesus says do exactly what he says and good will result.

So from what you've provided here, "future logic" means to obey Jesus. So where dis you get "peace love and compassionate ideals from then if the Bible means obedience. And I stlldon't see a definition. I see what appears to be part of a parable that you have interpreted to be speaking of logic. I think fschmidt would approve of your definition because it leaves much to be desired in precision.

By the way are you the same person who used to blog under the name Nide Corniel? The way you write and your sentence structure remind me of him. is it you Nide/hezakia ahaz/ rc321/Richard?

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10-03-2017, 09:54 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
He saying that's the better way you can follow if you want.
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10-03-2017, 09:57 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
(10-03-2017 09:54 PM)socialistview Wrote:  He saying that's the better way you can follow if you want.

It is you isn't it? That's exactly how he would answer including the lack of periods.

Have you got any substantive points to make against my claims?

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10-03-2017, 10:06 PM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
(10-03-2017 09:54 PM)socialistview Wrote:  He saying that's the better way you can follow if you want.

So it's better to obey than to think for one's self and apply an objective method to acquiring and validating knowledge?

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10-03-2017, 11:19 PM
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Its both. You have to study then have real life experiece. The bible is the blueprint of how things are your just examining the affects of how you should validate and aquire knowledge your not making up knowledge but taking and examining what has been given to you.
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11-03-2017, 06:50 AM
RE: Logic vs. Theism
(10-03-2017 11:19 PM)socialistview Wrote:  Its both. You have to study then have real life experiece. The bible is the blueprint of how things are your just examining the affects of how you should validate and aquire knowledge your not making up knowledge but taking and examining what has been given to you.

It can't be both. I've already demonstrated that logic and theism clash at the fundamental level. So the Bible must be thrown out as a "blueprint of how things are". To believe what it says is irrational. To believe it you must drop reason all together and adopt an inward looking method of knowledge. When we look outward at reality, we see a very different world than that one portrayed in the Bible, which affirms metaphysical subjectivism.

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11-03-2017, 08:03 AM
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We learn about reality, then we look back at the bible and see how we can twist what it says so that it "could have" been telling us what we learnt. Except it didn't tell us, and it never does. You may as well do the same with the back of a Rice Crispies box.

Learning about reality happens when you hide such books far, far away and deal with the facts.

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